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Rosa Robinson c1886

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Jenny

Jenny Report 17 Aug 2013 15:36

I am looking for information on Rosa Robinson who married Albert Warbey 1917 in Lambeth, London. Her father was George Robinson.

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Aug 2013 15:37

where was Rosa born?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 15:39

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Rose Robinson Name: Rose Robinson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 30
Spouse Name: Albert Warbey (Bachelor) Painter
Spouse Age: 40
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 May 1917
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: George Robinson >>>>Edit....Gardener
Spouse Father Name: Charles Warbey (Builder...Deceased)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William and Amelia Painter
Abode for both...6 Moreton Place

It seems he was fibbing about being married on the 1911 census.

Probably because he already had a child with Rose (Rosa).

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Aug 2013 15:39

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Name: Rosa Emily Robinson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 37
Birthplace: Lambeth, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-District: Lambeth Church
Parish: Lambeth
County: London

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 15:40

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: WARBEY, Albert
Address:

WARBEY, Albert Head Married 9 years M 34 1877 Painter VIEW
ROBINSON, Rose Housekeeper Single F 24 1887 House Keeper VIEW
WARBEY, Albert Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW
WARD, Queenie Niece F 9 1902 School VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 192
Reference: RG14PN192 RD2 SD3 ED27 SN620
Registration District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington North
Enumeration District: 27
Parish:
Address:
County: London


Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
WARBY Albert C Kensington 1a 130


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Aug 2013 15:42

????????

Name: Rosina Robinson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Birthplace: Lambeth, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-District: Kennington
Parish: Lambeth
County: London

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 16:01

??

1891 England Census
about Anna Robinson Name: Anna Robinson
Age: 4/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Robinson
Mother's Name: Mary A Robinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Lenham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Lenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lenham
Town: Lenham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration District: Lenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 692
Folio: 70
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
George Robinson 34
Mary A Robinson 37
George H Robinson 6
Lucy Robinson 5
Rosa Robinson 3
Anna Robinson 4/12


1901 England Census
about Annie Robinson Name: Annie Robinson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Robinson
Mother's Name: Mary Robinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Lenham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Lenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lenham
Town: Sandway
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration District: Lenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 107
Piece: 771
Folio: 67
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
George Robinson 48 (Fruit Grower/Army Pensioner)
Mary Robinson 50
George Robinson 16
Rose Robinson 13
Annie Robinson 10
Alfred Robinson 8
Res: Sandway, Kent


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 16:12

??

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ROBINSON, Alfred Sydney
Address: Sandway Maidstone Kent

ROBINSON, Mary Ann Head Widow F 57 1854 Devonshire Otterey VIEW
ROBINSON, Alfred Sydney Son Single M 18 1893 Laborer Fruit Plantation Kent Sandway VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 4175
Reference: RG14PN4175 RG78PN163 RD52 SD2 ED5 SN33
Registration District: Hollingbourne
Sub District: Lenham
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Lenham
Address: Sandway Maidstone Kent
County: Kent
(5 children born and living)

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Aug 2013 16:38

Slightly weird to put yourself down as married and then add Rose as Robinson and single

(1991 was first census to be written by the householder)
**EDIT *** 1911 - (Thanks PH )

so maybe he WAS a married man...


FROM SOMEONE'S TREE
********************************

Albert George Warbey
Birth 1877 in Hatcham, Surrey, England
Death 1953 in Hammersmith, London, England

parents
Charles William Warbey 1834 – 1910
Frances Amelia Miller 1828 – 1884


25. Jan 1902
Marriage to Alice Louisa Grubb
HolyTrinity, Croydon, Surrey, England At the time of her marriage Alice gives her father as being William Grubb (deceased) however it appears her father was george Grubb.


Residence
2. Apr 1911 - Age: 34
Kensington, London, England
Albert was living with a 24 year old housekeeper named Rosa Robinson whom he later married. Also in the home was a 4months old son Albert Warbey.


Marriage to Rosa Robinson
2 May 1917 Age: 40
St Mary Lambeth, Surrey, England.
At the time of Albert & Rosa's marriage Albert was said to be a batchelor. Rosa & Albert had been living together for at least seven years prior to their marriage in 1917

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 16:44

1911. :-)

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Aug 2013 16:53

1861


Charles Warbey

Age:26
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1835
Spouse's Name:Frances Amelia Warbey
Where born:Enfield, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Plumstead


Charles Warbey 26
Frances Amelia Warbey 30
Chas Henry Warbey 6
Amelia Phoebe Warbey 3
Caroline Sarah Warbey 1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2013 16:54

George and Mary's ages are a bit erratic on the records.......

He is 34 on the 1891......

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about George Robinson Name: George Robinson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Age at Death: 47
Registration District: Hollingbourn
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 441

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Aug 2013 16:54

1881

Charles Warbey 46 - House Decorator
Frances A. Warbey 51
Amelia P. Warbey 23
Joseph J. Warbey 19
Arthur P. Warbey 18
Alfred W. Warbey 15
Christopher E. Warbey 16
Sarah E. Warbey 8
Albert G. Warbey 4 <<<<<<<<

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Aug 2013 16:58





Rosa Robinson
Birth 23 Nov 1887 in Lenham, Kent, England
Death 23 Jun 1923 in 141 Barlby Road, Kensington, London, England

Mary

Mary Report 17 Aug 2013 20:10

1911 12,Mitton Rd Wimbledon
Sarah e Grub 1849 Shorditch
Alice Wabby visitor married 9 years born 1883 Caterham she is Alice louise nee Grub.

Her death Alice louise Warbey died 16/12/1957
Probate Alice louise Warbey (Widow)??
of Regina Cottage,17,Sunningvale Avenue Biggin Hill Kent.

So was she still married to Albert George Warbey when he married Rose??

Maryb.

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Aug 2013 20:16

Bigamy was not uncommon then.
Too expensive to divorce
and no computers to check !!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Aug 2013 22:37

Verifying the death posted by Mike:

Deaths Mar 1953 (>99%)
WARBEY Albert G 76 Fulham 5c 748

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Aug 2013 11:55

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: WABBY, Alice
Address: 12 Milton Road

GRUBB, Sarah E Head Widow F 62 1849 None Shoreditch London VIEW
GRUBB, Leonard G Son Single M 22 1889 Arounds Man Baker Caterham VIEW
GRUBB, Fred T Son Single M 19 1892 Leather Dresser Caterham VIEW
SHAYLOR, Fred Lodger Single M 20 1891 Arounds Man Baker Warickshire VIEW
WABBY, Alice Visitor Married9 years F 28 1883 None Caterham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3489
Reference: RG14PN3489 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED27 SN207
Registration District: Kingston
Sub District: Wimbledon
Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Wimbledon
Address: 12 Milton Road
County: Surrey

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Aug 2013 11:58

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alice Louise Warbey Name: Alice Louise Warbey
Probate Date: 29 May 1958
Death Date: 16 Dec 1957
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: London, England

At Dulwich Hospital, Dulwich London.

To David Hubert John solicitor.

Effects: £77 6s 2d

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Aug 2013 12:13

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
about Alice Louise Grubb Name: Alice Louise Grubb
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1883
Archive Provided Parish: Caterham, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Caterham
Father: George Frederick Grubb (Greengrocer)
Mother: Sarah Elizabeth Grubb
Reference Number: 6087/1/7