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I'm confused here - I've given GR the number of this thread so they can take "answered" off but they say that's not enough info - can someone else either help poster to remove "answered" or give GR what they want, cos I don't understand it at all :-S

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Thanks for all your posts, Rosa was not born in Lenham, unfortunately that was the orignal route I took but found out from the mother's grandchild of that Rosa that I had the wrong Rosa. I had this on my tree and other people took the information and now we all have it wrong!

I am back to square one, the information of Ro0sa's birth place is missing on the 1911 census due to fire damage. Unless I am very lucky and find one of her relatives I will have to wait for the 1921 census to find where she was born.

nudging this up for GR to remove "answered"

in the meantime I've sent a message to GR asking them to remove "answered" but they won't be able to do this until tomorrow

can someone help Jenny remove "answered", I'v tried to help but we're not getting anywhere :-)

Albert was still married to Alice when Rose moved in as housekeeper they had a son called Albert in 1910 followed by Henry 1913-1915, Sidney 1915 then they got married and had Rose 1917 and Doris 1921 before she died in 1923 of T.B.

I was under the impression that her mother was Mary Ann Burridge from Tavistock until recently when I spoke to a grandaughter of Mary who had known Mary. She knew Rosa and she said Rosa had married someone else and that she came to her wedding in 1948.

I am left with Rosa's wedding certificate stating her father was George and her death certificate. The 1911 census was fire damaged so there was no place of birth.

Jenny

Hi Prickles

I was very interested to see you had found Alice Wabby (Warbey) I have been looking for her for years.

Thank you.

Jenny

Jenny - you've misunderstood "answered" - you only mark a thread as "answered" when you have the info you require - to remove "answered" click on it again and it will remove it - if you leave it there people are likely to think you have found what you're looking for and then won't bother coming on here

Ann :-)

The only information I have is that Rosa was married to Albert Warbey 1917 on the marriage certificate it gives her father as George Robinson Gardener. She was Albert's housekeeper on the 1911 census but also the mother of his child Albert Warbey.

The 1911 census was fire damaged so there was no place of birth.

She had four more children with Albert. Two of which were born before they married and she was pregnant with the fourth when they married.

She died 21 June 1923 in Kensington of T.B.

Albert was already married to Alice Louise Grubb and I have not found evidence of a divorce

Hi Jenny

Thankyou for your message.

The information you give all seems to tie in with the information members have posted for you on here.

Prickles. :-)

Hello Jenny and welcome to the Community Boards :-)




As Jenny is a new poster, I'll send a friendly message on how to return to her thread. :-)

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Albert Warbey Name: Albert Warbey
Year: 1919
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
Street Address: 141 PrtWag District

With Rosa........141 Barlby Road.

Both at the same address on the 1920 and 1921 Electoral Register.

It seems a son was born to Albert and Alice in 1911......

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick G Warbey Name: Frederick G Warbey
Mother's Maiden Name: Grubb
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration District: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 800



..England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick G Warbey Name: Frederick G Warbey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 509

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
about Alice Louise Grubb Name: Alice Louise Grubb
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1883
Archive Provided Parish: Caterham, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Caterham
Father: George Frederick Grubb (Greengrocer)
Mother: Sarah Elizabeth Grubb
Reference Number: 6087/1/7

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alice Louise Warbey Name: Alice Louise Warbey
Probate Date: 29 May 1958
Death Date: 16 Dec 1957
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: London, England

At Dulwich Hospital, Dulwich London.

To David Hubert John solicitor.

Effects: £77 6s 2d

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: WABBY, Alice
Address: 12 Milton Road

GRUBB, Sarah E Head Widow F 62 1849 None Shoreditch London VIEW
GRUBB, Leonard G Son Single M 22 1889 Arounds Man Baker Caterham VIEW
GRUBB, Fred T Son Single M 19 1892 Leather Dresser Caterham VIEW
SHAYLOR, Fred Lodger Single M 20 1891 Arounds Man Baker Warickshire VIEW
WABBY, Alice Visitor Married9 years F 28 1883 None Caterham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3489
Reference: RG14PN3489 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED27 SN207
Registration District: Kingston
Sub District: Wimbledon
Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Wimbledon
Address: 12 Milton Road
County: Surrey

Verifying the death posted by Mike:

Deaths Mar 1953 (>99%)
WARBEY Albert G 76 Fulham 5c 748

Bigamy was not uncommon then.
Too expensive to divorce
and no computers to check !!

1911 12,Mitton Rd Wimbledon
Sarah e Grub 1849 Shorditch
Alice Wabby visitor married 9 years born 1883 Caterham she is Alice louise nee Grub.

Her death Alice louise Warbey died 16/12/1957
Probate Alice louise Warbey (Widow)??
of Regina Cottage,17,Sunningvale Avenue Biggin Hill Kent.

So was she still married to Albert George Warbey when he married Rose??

Maryb.

Rosa Robinson
Birth 23 Nov 1887 in Lenham, Kent, England
Death 23 Jun 1923 in 141 Barlby Road, Kensington, London, England