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Scottish look up please

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MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 13:38

If anyone has access to Scotlands People would you mind seeing if there is a Marriage for Henry Buckley and Elizabeth Mastin?
They had a child c1883. She was a home child that ended up in Canada shipped out in 1895 aged 12. Ada Buckley.

Many thanks for your time
Geraldine

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 13:51

Nothing coming up on scotlandspeople. What makes you think they married in Scotland? Was Ada born there?

Gins

Gins Report 18 Aug 2013 13:55


Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928

Name:
Ada Buckley

Birth Place:England <<<<<<<<<<<

Age:19

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1888

Father Name:Henry Buckley

Mother Name:Elizabeth Mastin

Spouse Name:William Grant

Spouse's Age:24

Spouse Birth Year:abt 1883

Spouse Birth Place:Canada

Spouse Father Name:James Grant

Spouse Mother Name:Elizabeth Towns

Marriage Date:25 Jun 1907

Marriage County or District:Wentworth



If this is the daughter, she was born in England?

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 14:04

Thanks everyone....Gins that's the one! Now we know she was born England and not Scotland.
Off to buy a few certs now as we don't know where abouts.
Couldn't find Marriage on BMD.

Thanks again x

Gins

Gins Report 18 Aug 2013 14:22

Hi

This is an extract from a tree at Ancestry. Might be worth looking into?


Birth: 12-16-1881 (16 Dec 1881) - Suffolk, England
Marriage: 25 Jun 1907 - Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Death: 11/18/1963 (18 Nov 1963) - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Parents: Henry Buckley, Elizabeth Mastin
Spouse: William Henry Grant

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 14:28

No birth coming up in Suffolk.

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 14:34

The Ancestry trees have her as Ada Edith

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 14:44

The trees on Ancestry have conflicting information. One of them has this census attached:


1891 England Census

Name:Elizabeth Buckley
Age:51
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1840
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Walworth, London, England
Civil Parish:St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
County/Island:London
Country:England
Thomas A Dunmore 21
Annie Dunmore 20
Mary J Dunmore 7/12
Elizabeth Buckley 51
Walter Buckley 15
Ada Buckley 9 b Brockley. London
Walter Marstin 34
Mary A Marstin 28
John F Marstin 8
Eliza J Marstin 5
Alice A Marstin 4
Jenny E Marstin 1

All births coming up for Ada are in the North, mainly Lancashire and Yorkshire.

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 15:00

Thanks Gins....oops! Potty :-D


I'm actually working with my sister in law in Canada and she's at work.
I keep waiting for her to reply lol
She said that the 1907 Marriage was actually 1901 and another Ancestry member has put a correction...
Ada was her Fathers Mother...

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 15:34

I wonder if this family is any connection:


1881 England Census
about Walter Harling

Name:Walter Harling
Age:5
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1876
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:Henry Harling
Mother:Elizabeth Harling
Gender:Male
Where born:Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Deptford St Paul
County/Island:London
Country:England
Henry Harling 46
Elizabeth Harling 42
Walter Harling 5
Charles Harling 2
Eliza Marstin 52 Sister
Anne Marstin 14 Neice
Alfred Marstin 12 Nephew


Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 15:37

Eliza's maiden name was also Marstin (she married John Thomas Marstin). so she must be Elizabeth's sister.

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 15:42

Elizabeth and Henry's marriage?


Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
Brett George Greenwich 1d 826 Scan available - click to view
******BUCKLEY Henry Greenwich 1d 826 Scan available - click to view
*******Marsdin Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 826 Scan available - click to view
Sibley Mary Ann Greenwich 1d 826 Scan available - click to view

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 15:47

Potty! how did you find that???? Ive been going POTTY here looking for that lol
Oh well done that looks very promising and could account as to why Ada got sent away...Mum died maybe as she was getting on abit.
Thank you :-)

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 15:48

I "feel" that Henry Buckley" and Henry Harling are the same person but can't prove it!

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 16:04

I think so too...but.....would you have 2 sisters one Elizabeth and the other Eliza?
Looks good though.

Hang on here....Potty
Do you mean Eliza was a Marstin and married a Marstin? Nah lol

edit...Sorry Potty yet again. I have worked out what you mean now (senior moment) :-S

Maybe John Thomas was Elizabeths Sister?

I need to rest my brain... x

safc

safc Report 18 Aug 2013 16:13

????

County Kent
Place Deptford
Church Saint Nicholas
RegisterNumber 145
MarriageDate 17 Dec 1861
GroomForename Henry
GroomSurname BUCKLEY
GroomAge
GroomParish Saint Nicholas
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Blacksmith
GroomAbode Deptford
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname MARSDEN
BrideAge
BrideParish Saint Nicholas
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Deptford
GroomFatherForename Richard
GroomFatherSurname BUCKLEY
GroomFatherOccupation Waterman
BrideFatherForename Thomas
BrideFatherSurname MARSDEN
BrideFatherOccupation Paperhanger
WitnessOneForename Wm.
WitnessOneSurname MURREY
WitnessTwoForename Mary Ann
WitnessTwoSurname MURREY
Notes
FileNumber 32698

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 16:20

OH!!! safc Im excited now! going to mail sister in law right now....WELL DONE everyone :-D

Still doesn't give us a clue as to why Ada was shipped away. :-|

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 17:23

It was looking for my lot that drove me Potty!

The PR of Henry & Elizabeth's marriage is on Ancestry. His occupation - blacksmith; father: Richard - waterman.

Henry Harling in the 1881 is a labourer in brickfields - so probably too different men. Maybe Elizabeth lived with Henry Harling as his wife and reverted to Buckley when he left/died?

Potty

Potty Report 18 Aug 2013 17:43

Still no luck with Ada's birth.

Elizabeth and Eliza were sisters - same father's name and occupation on marriages and if you trace the census back, they are together


Name:
Eliza Jane Marstin
Spouse Name:John Thomas Marstin
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:9 May 1852
Parish:Newington St Mary
Borough:Southwark
Father Name:Thomas Marstin - Paper Stainer
Spouse Father Name:John Marstin - paper stainer
Register Type:Parish Register

Eliza and Elizabeth in 1841 - Thomas occupation Paper Stainer:


1841 England Census
about Elizabeth Marstin

ame:Elizabeth Marstin
Age:6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1840
Gender:Female
Where born:Surrey, England
Civil Parish:St Mary Newington
Hundred:Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island:Surrey
Country:England

Thomas Marstin 40
Elizabeth Marstin 35
Eliza Marstin 12
Joseph Marstin 10
William Marstin 6
Charles Marstin 4
George Marstin 3
Elizabeth Marstin 6 Mo
Ann Allborne 70
Elizabeth Mitchell 20


MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 18 Aug 2013 19:12

Look what I found...all by myself lol


Deaths Jun 1890
Harling Henry 54 Greenwich 1d 527

Looks like you were right Potty.
If Elizabeth found herself with no man it's no wonder she sent Ada away!

Thank you thank you :-)
x