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Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2013 17:29

Can anyone help please, my head is sore after the biggesr brick wall I have ever seen.
I have found the man I am looking for at St Micheals School Brixton .
b 21 nov 1896, his father James Taylor and his address at that time ( 1904 )
but the address given, I can not find any Taylor's ever living there.
Either befor or after that date.
Any help/sugestions please
Cathy

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 18:03

When you say that you can find no Taylors living there before or after that date, do you mean in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, or on ER's?

Could you give us the address and the parents' names etc?

Thank-you

Added:
If you look at the image you will see that he only started at the school in 1904, and was previously at a school in Hackford Rd (?), so he has moved around...

Gins

Gins Report 22 Aug 2013 18:08


London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name:George Taylor

Age:7

Birth Date:21 Nov 1896

School:St Michael's School

Borough:Lambeth

Admission Date:13 Jun 1904

Parent: James Taylor

Notes:
Saint Michael's School (0183) opened in or before 1903. Closed or reorganised in 196-


Edit: People moved on a regular basis back in that period

Reference Number:LCC/EO/DIV08/STMIC/AD/001

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 18:19

This might have been his previous school and surrounding area:

http://ovalhistory.co.uk/a-guide-to-each-street-in-my-project/hackford-road/

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2013 18:59

The address from the image was 57 Stockwell Green. George left St Michael's school to go to Stockwell Road.

Cathy, what is this brick wall stopping you from finding? How did you connect to George?

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Aug 2013 09:02

I only know his fathers name " James Taylor ", and they lived at 57 Stockwell Green.
I can not find any Taylor's living at that address either befor or after 1904.
I do not know his father's occupation.
I do not know were he was born, so the census dose not help, the one's I have found on the 1901 and 1911, thier birth dates were wrong.
Thank you
Cathy

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Aug 2013 09:02

I only know his fathers name " James Taylor ", and they lived at 57 Stockwell Green.
I can not find any Taylor's living at that address either befor or after 1904.
I do not know his father's occupation.
I do not know were he was born, so the census dose not help, the one's I have found on the 1901 and 1911, thier birth dates were wrong.
Thank you
Cathy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Aug 2013 10:55

Birth dates on the school records can be wrong as I have found several that are incorrect

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2013 12:36

How have you got back to James? Is he a direct ancestor? I so, which of his children are you descended from? If he married, his marriage cert will give his father's occupation which would help identify him on the census.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2013 12:52

Giving the location of Hackford Road, could this be George in 1901:


1901 England Census
about George H Taylor
Name:George H Taylor
Age:3
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1898
Relation:Son
Father's Name:James H Taylor
Mother's Name:Emily Taylor
Gender:Male
Where born:Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish:Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish:St Andrew Stockwell
County/Island:London
Registration District:Lambeth

Sub-registration District:Kennington Second ****
James H Taylor 30
Emily Taylor 25
James W Taylor 5
George H Taylor 3
Donald T Taylor 1
George Lwetchford 8


Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Aug 2013 15:41

In 1901 George was 4 as his birthday was November, so the school register is
correct.
We know his father was James.
There was more than one marraige certificate,and his father was always James
but James's ocupation was different on each one.
Cathy

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Aug 2013 15:46

I think I should say, George is my husbands father.
Cathy

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 23 Aug 2013 16:30

Cathy.

Could you give us the info from the marriage certificates please?
Occupations,addresses,witnesses...

Thanks,
Maureen

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Aug 2013 20:42

Mar (1) 1937
George Taylor Batch 28 Lab 35 Grandfell Terr Wandsworth Father James Taylor
Railway engine driver.
Mary Spurr spin 18 35 Grenfell Terr father William Spurr Painter
Wit/ R.West M. West

Mar (2) 1948
George Taylor Batch 46 Lab Jackson St Otley Father James Taylor dec
Annie Lambert 52 30 Bank Parade Otley father Mesingbird Lambert Gardner
Wit/ ? Richards

Mar (3) 1952
George Taylor div mary Spurr 58 30 Bank Parrade Otley father James Taylor dec
Annie Lambert 56 30 Bank parrade Otley Father Messingbird Lambert Gardner dec
I cant remember who the witnesses were.

We also think there may have been a marr befor 1937

Yes he was a bigamist.
Cathy

patchem

patchem Report 23 Aug 2013 22:30

George was 28 in 1937 and 46 in 1948?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Aug 2013 02:48

Yikes. Not sure I even want to start on this one. :-S :-S

Just for ref-I THINK we're talking about these people????????

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Annie Lambourne
Name: Annie Lambourne
Spouse Surname: Taylor (George J H)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1948
Registration District: Wharfedale
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 2d
Page Number: 1937

And another marriage for what looks like the same pair in 1951.


..................
1911 census transcription details for: 30 Bank Parade Otley
RG14PN26011 RG78PN1504 RD491 SD3 ED11 SN333
Reg. District: Wharfedale
Sub District: Otley
Parish: Otley
Enum. District: 11
Address: 30 Bank Parade Otley
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
LAMBOURNE, John Richard Mussingbird(sic) Head Married M 41 1870 Gardener Domestic London Chelsea
LAMBOURNE, Mary Wife Married
13 years F 42 1869 Yorkshire Burley in Wharfedale
LAMBOURNE, George Son Single M 11 1900 School Yorks Otley
????LAMBOURNE, Annie Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Yorks Otley
LAMBOURNE, John Henry Son Single M 5 1906 School Yorks Otley
LAMBOURNE, Maggie Daughter Single F 2 1909 Yorks Otley
...................
Not even certain what to ask at this point.

Oh-Cathy-could you check the address on the first marriage cert again. What's the name of the Terrace in Wandsworth???

And you know of the divorce from Mary SPURR because....?


Sorry!!!


Maureen

Catherine

Catherine Report 24 Aug 2013 07:11

Now you know why I need help.
Mary Spurr was my husbands Mother.
Yes you have all Annie Lambourns details right.
I am at my caravan at the moment on holiday, will check regards Terr Wandsworth.
when I get home.
George Taylor was not quite truthful, but if it had been a woman, we would have got
younger, not him, as you have seen.
He also changed his name as you have seen G.J. and G.J.H Taylor, but his name was Just George.
Mother ( Mary ) found out after they were married that he was realy 41yrs old but
she is no longer with us we cant ask questions.
My poor husband just wants to know his roots.

He even fooled Annie.
Cathy

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Aug 2013 08:02

Cathy,

Enjoy your holiday. :-D :-D

Forget about Family History for a few weeks.

Is there sun where you are?

Best,
Maureen


Mary

Mary Report 24 Aug 2013 09:36

His death register
George J Taylor born ?? 21/11/1904 died march 1970 Wharfedale West Yorkshire 2d 2240.

Same date different year!!.

Maryb

Mavis

Mavis Report 24 Aug 2013 11:03



not had his birthday that year

Mavis