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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Sep 2013 00:05

Going back to the Grandchild in the 1911 census.......


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick Charles Kates Name: Frederick Charles Kates
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Registration District: Reigate
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 203

I looked for any Kates in the 1911 census and found this.......


1911 England Census
about Lizzie Kates Name: Lizzie Kates
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Assistant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Reigate
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 38 Glovers Road, Reigate
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Laundrymaid
Registration District: Reigate
Registration District Number: 37
Sub-registration District: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 249
Piece: 3216
Household Members: Name Age
James Taylor 47
Emily Taylor 43
Lily E A Taylor 15
Ethel H Taylor 11
Elsie L Taylor 3
Alice Amy Snook 36
Ernest John Snook 34
William Arthcolm Snook 28
Lizzie Kates 36 >>>>>>>Widow
Sarah Benson 22


You will see from the 1881 census that David has a daughter Elizabeth born 1876.

(I can't spot a birth/baptism record for her)

Here she is in 1891.......

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth A Byde Name: Elizabeth A Byde
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Fleet, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandhurst
Town: Sandhurst
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Easthampstead
Sub-registration District: Sandhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1008
Folio: 51
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
William G Hambridge 35
Deborah Hambridge 35
William J T Hambridge 9
Nonica D Hambridge 8
Harry G Hambridge 8
Lois E Hambridge 5
Bernard J Hambridge 4
Elizabeth A Byde 14

(I have yet to find her Elizabeth in 1901)

I looked for a Byde/kates marriage between 1891 and 1911 and came up with this.....


Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Kates Charles William Reigate 2a 447
Ryde Elizabeth Ann Reigate 2a 447

This made me wonder if "Ryde" was an error and it should in fact read "Byde"

I then looked to see if i could find a death registered for a Charles Kates between 1903 and 1911.


Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
KATES Charles 31 Reigate 2a 122


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Charles William Kates Name: Charles William Kates
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Jun 1876
Christening Place: Southborough, Kent, England
Father's Name: Charles Jones Kates
Mother's Name: Ann




1901 England Census
about Charles W Kates Name: Charles W Kates
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Southborough, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Reigate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Reigate
Sub-registration District: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 190
Piece: 628
Folio: 75
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age

Charles W Kates 24 (Groom and Domestic)

Of course the only way to be certain would be to purchase a copy of Frederick's birth cert........ but it looks good to me.

Elizabeth remarried in 1917...


Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Barnard Alfred Kates Reigate 2a 484
Kates Elizabeth A Barnard Reigate 2a 484


??

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Elizabeth A Barnard Name: Elizabeth A Barnard
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Dec 1940
Age at Death: 63
Registration District: Surrey South eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 1292


Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987
about Elizabeth Ann Barnard Name: Elizabeth Ann Barnard
Birth Year: abt 1877
Burial Age: 63
Burial Date: 14 Dec 1940
Abode: 23 St Johns Road, Reigate.
Archive Provided Parish: Reigate, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Reigate
Reference Number: 6909/1/23

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Sep 2013 10:07

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Frederick C Kates Name: Frederick C Kates
Spouse Name: Annie E Mansell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931
Registration District: Reigate
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 553

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 11:22

David and Annie's son Albert who appears in the 1911 census....

Mistranscribed as "Bide" on his birth registration...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Albert Bide Name: Albert Bide
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 174


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Albert Byde Name: Albert Byde
Spouse Name: Annie E Burt
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919
Registration District: Maidenhead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 1343


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Albert Byde Name: Albert Byde
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Dec 1939
Age at Death: 45
Registration District: Maidenhead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 1064



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Albert Byde Name: Albert Byde
Probate Date: 19 Feb 1940
Death Date: 4 Dec 1939
Death Place: Berkshire, England
Registry: Oxfordshire, England

Of 4 Council Cottages, Littlewick, Berkshire...died at Ray-Mill Road, East Maidenhead Berkshire.

To: Annie Elizabeth Byde widow.

Effects: £285 8s 2d

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 11:27

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Annie Elizabeth Burt Name: Annie Elizabeth Burt
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1893
Registration District: Cookham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 417


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Annie Elizabeth Byde Name: Annie Elizabeth Byde
Birth Date: 7 May 1893
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 556

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Byde Henrietta E Burt Maidenhead 2c 967

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Byde Emily J Burt Maidenhead 2c 749

Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
Byde Henry J Burt Maidenhead 2c 659

This is Henry's first wife...........(They remarried)

..England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Henry J Byde Name: Henry J Byde
Spouse Name: Vivienns R Menelaws
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1955
Registration District: Maidenhead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 67

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Vivienne R Byde Name: Vivienne R Byde
Spouse Name: Anthont D Flooks
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1979
Registration District: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 19
Page Number: 0844

Vivienne's death...


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Vivienne Rosemary Flooks Name: Vivienne Rosemary Flooks
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1937
Date of Registration: Apr 1997
Age at Death: 60
Registration District: Reading and Wokingham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Register Number: WOK35
District and Subdistrict: 3202
Entry number: 140







Births Mar 1935 (>99%)
Byde Albert G Burt Maidenhead 2c 630
(Albert and his wife Eileen are on the 2002-2007 electoral roll)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 11:35

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Laura Bide Name: Laura Bide
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration District: Wokingham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 390

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Laura Byde Name: Laura Byde
Spouse Name: Edward W Berry
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration District: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1826

How sad, she died the following year...


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Laura Berry Name: Laura Berry
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Mar 1919
Age at Death: 21
Registration District: Easthampstead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 761



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 11:48

Her son also died......

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Edward G Berry Name: Edward G Berry
Mother's Maiden Surname: Byde
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration District: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1298


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Edward G Berry Name: Edward G Berry
Mother's Maiden Surname: Byde
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Age 0
Registration District: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1298

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 13:52

Sister Jane died at a young age too...


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Jane Bide Name: Jane Bide
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1905
Age at Death: 27
Registration District: Easthampstead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 245

And Henry....

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Byde Name: Henry Byde
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1880
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 185


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Bide Name: Henry Bide
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1904
Age at Death: 24
Registration District: Easthampstead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 256



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Sep 2013 14:21

David's birth and death has been mistranscribed as Bide......


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about David Bide Name: David Bide
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 173



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about David Bide Name: David Bide
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Mar 1966
Age at Death: 78
Registration District: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 9d
Page: 333


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Margaret May Byde Name: Margaret May Byde
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 200


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Margaret M Byde Name: Margaret M Byde
Spouse Name: Frederick W Makepeace
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Registration District: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 730


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Margaret May Makepeace Name: Margaret May Makepeace
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1896
Date of Registration: Nov 1989
Age at Death: 92
Registration District: Truro
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 778