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finding a bad boy help please

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helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 6 Sep 2013 19:24

HI Mary glad i'm not the only one!! this lot do my head in big time!
i'm just going to add all the info above to see if it squares with what i already have. re Ann meredith york where did you get the info from as to her parentage. I looked at about 5 trees on ancestry and they all seemed to have copied one person without checking out the facts for themselves?? I contacted one as she had Henrys DOB down as 1783 instead of the correct 1804 as one of the census' is mistranscribed and she just replied yes i know it's wrong? well why not change it then????? As we know with so many rels with similar DOB and names it all has to be double checked!
back in a bit xxxxxx

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 6 Sep 2013 19:40

right 1861 William York b1852 is on the 1861 with his parents Jer and Caroline!!!
Ann Meredith York b1853 is on the 1861 and 1871 with her parents Jer and Caroline!!!
so i think that answers it???
did Jer and Ann also have a child ann at a similar time??? or did the vicar get the names mixed up as the child was ann did he wrongly put that down as the mothers name as well? often they weren't filled in straight away?

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 6 Sep 2013 20:00

well i'm stumped now also on Williams baptism page is the baptism of Sarah York daug of James and Mary Ann he is also a wadding maker and living in Norfolk Place who on earth are they???????
the only other poss explanation is that william and ann were visiting their auntie and uncle on census night for some reason and got listed with the wrong parents?? how on earth do we find out for sure???
HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP am losing the plot now :-(

Vera

Vera Report 7 Sep 2013 09:06

?????

Ann Meridith York

record Type:

Baptism

Baptism Date:

27 Feb 1853

Father's Name:

Jeremiah York
Mother's Name:

Ann York

Parish or Poor Law Union:

Shoreditch St Leonard

Borough:

Hackney

Register Type:

Parish Registers

address 12, New Norfolk street....occ. Wadding maker.


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 7 Sep 2013 09:36

You probably know all this....but no Ann

1861
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
YORK, Jeremiah Head Married M 32 1829 Fireman
Lambeth, Surrey VIEW
YORK, Ann Wife Married F 33 1828
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW
YORK, George Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Scholar
Camberwell, Surrey VIEW
>>>>>>>YORK, ... Son M 6 1855 ........... on image it is Thomas (Thos) Henry
Woolwich, Kent VIEW
YORK, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1851
Woolwich, Kent VIEW
YORK, Eliza Son F 3 1858
Woolwich, Kent VIEW
Piece: 319
Folio: 138
Page: 58
Registration District: Bermondsey
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Municipal Borough: Southwark
Address: 1, Napoleon Place, Bermondsey, Southwark
County: London, Surrey


1861 I know you have all this.......but got to get it straight in my mind !!!!
Heres the other Jeremiah with wife Caroline
can't seem to find a birth in Shoreditch for Ann or the others with Jer and Caroline as parents......obviously the children were not born in Shoreditch.Maybe the adopted the other children... look at the years of birth.

Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
YORK, Jeremiah Head Married M 39 1822 Wadding Maker
Lewisham, Kent VIEW
YORK, Caroline Wife Married F 31 1830
Horsleydown, Surrey VIEW
YORK, William Son M 9 1852 Scholar
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW
YORK, Ann Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW
YORK, Charles Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW
YORK, Sarah Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Shoreditch, Middlesex VIEW
Piece: 231
Folio: 28
Page: 52
Registration District: Shoreditch
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Municipal Borough:
Address: 10, Anns Place, Shoreditch
County: London


1851 for my ref......

YORK, Jeremiah Head Married M 28 1823 Wadding Traveller
Lewisham, Kent VIEW
YORK, Caroline Wife Married F 21 1830
Horsedown VIEW
YORK, Sarah Daughter F 1 1850
Burmarsh, Surrey VIEW
Piece: 1539
Folio: 24
Page: 40
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 2, Cross Street, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 7 Sep 2013 10:30


William York

Record Type:

Baptism

Baptism Date:

5 Jan 1853

Mother's Name:

Ann York

Parish or Poor Law Union:

Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene

Borough:

Southwark

Register Type:

Parish Registers


Born in workhouse.

Regards Vera

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 7 Sep 2013 17:47

HI V we can dicount this william as he was base born in the workhouse :-( re the Ann situation it is the same Ann appearing on the census as the baptism just with her aunt and Uncle on the census. The same for William they are the same children??? but how you set out to prove that i have no idea! Also V did you see the James York underneath on the baptisms also a wadding maker living in Napoleon place who on earth is he?????