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Thanks Kucinta,
Glad I wasn't just being blind.
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I have just received the death certificate for David Borthwick and after being a medicine dispenser in 1841, a medical man at James and Clarence's christenings, a surgeon - non practisng on the 1851 cenus and at his death in August 1851he was a 'Law Writer'! Chequered career.
I still have had no progress in finding his and Eliza's marriage or the births of the 3 older children -Emily 1837, Edward 1838 and John 1839. According to the census all born in Middlesex. I realise it wasn't required to register births that early so perhaps they weren't. It's possible that their marriage records have been lost or or the ceremony didn't happen at all. Maybe this is as far as I can go with this branch. If so thanks to everyone for all the help you have given me.
Jill
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1841
Name: David Borthwick
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars)
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Holborn
Sub-registration District: Saffron Hill
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 671
Book: 7
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
David Borthwick 50
Eliza Borthwick 25
Emily Borthwick 5
Edw Borthwick 4
John Borthwick 2
Susan Hawley 55
The above gives David's occupation as Proprietor of (can make out the next word) for the cure of gout.
There is also this one in Edinburgh in 1841 and he's a Chemist of some sort.
Name: Emer Borack
[David Borthwick]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Greenside
County: Midlothian
Address: Greenside Place Down Stavis No 2
Occupation: Chemistgiwaper
Parish Number: 685/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Emer Borack 50
Jane Borack 35
David Borack 12
Jane Borack 9
Robert Millegan 20
Alexander Mc Marando 15
(The correction to the name on Ancestry was added in 2010, presumably by someone who had viewed the original image)
This is the Greenside Place one earlier. He obviously had a career change too.
Name: David Borthwick
Dates: 1801-1825
Location: Town: Edinburgh edinburgh
Occupation(s): spirit dealer
Gender: Male
Address(es): Greenside place, no. 3; Town: Edinburgh
Source Date: 1824
Source Info: Listed in, [Edinburgh, 1824] The new and improved Directory for Edinburgh, Leith, and Suburbs, from Whitsunday 1824 to Whitsunday 1825; (to be continued annually); containing an alphabetical list of the Nobility, Gentry, Merchants, Traders, and principal Inhabitants. With An Appendix, containing Lists of the Magistrates and Council - Post Towns in Scotland, England and Ireland - arival and dispatch of Mails, Stage-Coaches, and Carriers - Shipping and Insurance Companies - Hackney Coach and Chair fares - Porters’ and Carters’ Rates, &c. &c. With a Street Directory, and a Plan of the City., [1824], ANON., Edinburgh. John Anderson, Jun. 55, North Bridge Street, and William Hunter, 23, Hanover Street
There is also this one
Name: David Borthwick
Dates: 1801-1825
Location: Town: Edinburgh edinburgh
Occupation(s): teacher
Gender: Male
Address(es): Elder street, no. 21; Town: Edinburgh
Source Date: 1815
Source Info: Listed in, [Edinburgh, 1815] The Post-Office Annual Directory, from Whitsunday 1815, to Whitsunday 1816, containing an Alphabetical arrangement of the Noblemen, Private Gentlemen, Merchants, Traders and Others, in the City and Suburbs of Edinburgh and Leith, with their Residence., 1815, ANON., Edinburgh. Printed by Abernethy & Walker, Old Bank Close, Lawnmarket
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Thanks rootgatherer.
It seems younger women were the way to go. Interesting that David should die from 'gout - years and gastric irritation - 2 days'. Maybe from self medication. Lots to chew over with my sisters.
Jill
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How would I find out if Emily, Edward, John and James went to the Workhouse between 1851 when their father died and 1855 when their mother emigrated? It could have been Holborn where their grandmother Susanna Hawley was. Just a thought.
Thanks,
Jill
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