Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

New Scottish Census

New Scottish census records

Do you have Scottish ancestors?

Perhaps you do and you just didn't know! Search our brand new Scottish census records today and discover if you have Scottish roots.

Search Scottish Census

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Birth 'at sea' Mary Bott 1812

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 09:47

Looking for the birth and cannot find records before the 1840's Her mother was born in Hull, Mary ? 1792, father Joseph Bott 1790 ag Lab in Staffordshire in 1841 from Staffordshire.
cant get any further back due to this, any help appreciated.

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:24

The only record you can hope for is her baptism.

BUT......you already know the parents' names.............so finding info about Mary won't add to your knowledge

You need to look for the marriage of the parents to try to establish the mother's maiden name

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Sep 2013 10:25

Could you post the census with Joseph, and that of Mary please?
Have you followed forward Joseph, his wife and daughter?
To your knowledge, did Mary 1812 have any siblings?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:30

For INFO

1851 census

Person: BOTT, Mary Address: Willow Row, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton

BOTT, Mary Head Widow F 59 1792 Domestic
Hill, Yorkshire VIEW
BOTT, William Son Unmarried M 31 1820 Potter Looker To Ware
Stone, Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 28 1823 Potter Dipprey House
Longton, Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826 Potter Dipprey House
Longton, Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, James Son M 14 1837 Scholar
Longton, Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Martha Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Longton, Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Sarah Ann F 0 (9 MOS) 1851
Longton, Staffordshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:34

1841 census


Person: BOTT, James Address: Willow Row, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton

BOTT, Joseph M 55 1786 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Margaret F 25 1816 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, William M 20 1821 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Ellen F 15 1826 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Elizabeth F 15 1826 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, James M 5 1836 Staffordshire VIEW
BOTT, Ann F 0 (4 months) 1841 Staffordshire

Where are the two MARYs?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:35

How did you decide that these people were the family of Mary born c1812?

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 10:36

I am trying to find out Mothers maiden name and am intrigued as to the reason she was born 'at sea' where they were travelling from, and what port they docked in. then can trace female line back from there. I cannot find baptism or parents marriage.

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:39

The idea that a child of Joseph's was born at sea seems unlikely, to say the least.

It's possible that she was Mary's child before her marriage...................she, at least, was born close to the sea.

Where did your info come from about Mary's birthplace

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 10:46

Mary put her birthplace as 'at sea' on census records last one being 1871 in Spittals workhouse Stoke on Trent and every one I have found prior to then, she died 1874 i think

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:48

I repeat......................


How did you decide that these people were the family of Mary born c1812?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:53

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Name: Mary Day
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 60
Relationship to Head of Household: Inmate
Birthplace: On Sea
Schedule Type: Institution
Registration District: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-District: Stoke Upon Trent
Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
County: Staffordshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 10:55

1861 census


Person: DAY, Mary Address: 16, Willow Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton

DAY, Mary Head Widow F 47 1814
Born on the Sea VIEW
BOK, Ellen Sister Unmarried F 35 1826 Potter
Longton, Staffordshire VIEW
BOK, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Longton, Staffordshire

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 4 Sep 2013 11:04

Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
BOTT Mary Stoke on Tr 17 185 <<<<<<<<<
DARBYSHIRE Samuel Stoke on Trent 17 185
DAY John Stoke on T 17 185 <<<<<<<<<
GATER Enoch Stoke on Tt 17 185
HANNOWBY Maria Stoke on Tt 17 185
HURST William Stoke on Tr 17 185
LANCASTER Margery Stoke on Trent 17 185
POWELL Mary Stoke on Tr 17 185

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 4 Sep 2013 11:08

Name: John Day
Birth Date: 1823
Birthplace:
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Mary Bott
Spouse's Birth Date: 1823
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 1844
Event Place: St James, Lane-End And Longton, Stafford, England
Father's Name: John Day
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Bott

Rather a strange discrepancy in age, unless she lied about hers.

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 14:47

Reggie sorry have been out, I connected her to the Bott family through Sibling Ellen who was living with her in one of the census so started searching out Ellen and siblings too

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 14:51

BeverleyW It looks correct, think she must have lied about her age. because everything else matches perfectly.

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 14:54

Reggie, I dont know wherre the 2 Mary's were in the 1841 Census sorry

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 15:06

Which is why I wondered whether Mary jnr was illegitimate

??????


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1842
BOTT Martha Longton Stoke-On-Trent ARK LGN/006/002

Christine

Christine Report 4 Sep 2013 16:51

I have seen 'born on the sea' before, and the father turned out to be a Waterman on Inland Waterways!