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Elizabeth Hibbens

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Anita

Anita Report 4 Sep 2013 13:08

This is the only record of her that i can find. She is entered in a family bible as Elizabeth Hibben/Kilby. I have tried lots of lines but found nothing. Can anyone help with records or suggestions?
Thank you
Anita

Name: Frederick Kilby
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Kilby
Gender: Male
Where born: Ramsey, Hungary
Civil Parish: Ockbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Ockbrook All Saints
Town: Borrowash
County/Island: Derbyshire
Piece: 3212
Folio: 58
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
James Harvey 78 Head wid
James Harvey 39 son s
Frederick Kilby 47 son-in-law m
Elizabeth Kilby 47 daug m
Elizabeth Hibbens 15 grandd s
Lucy Lomax 69

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:14

FMP version...slightly more accurately transcribed

1901 census


Person: LOMAX, Lucy Address: Victoria Avenue, Ockbrook, Borrowash


HARVEY, James Head Widower M 78 1823 Platelayer (Formerly)
Diseworth, Derbyshire VIEW
HARVEY, James Son Single M 39 1862 Cattleman On Farm
Borrowash, Derbyshire VIEW
KILBY, Frederick Son-In-Law Married M 47 1854 Railway Platelayer
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
KILBY, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 47 1854
Borrowash, Derbyshire VIEW
HIBBENS, Elizabeth Grand Daughter Single F 15 1886 General Servant (Domestic)
Ramdey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
LOMAX, Lucy Boarder Single F 69 1832 Living On Own Means
Borrowash, Derbyshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:18

1891 census


Person: KILBY, Frederick Address: Ockbrook Lane, Ockbrook, Borrowash

HARVEY, James Head Married M 66 1825 Railway Labourer
Diseworth, Leicestershire VIEW
HARVEY, Constance Wife Married F 61 1830
?, Warwickshire VIEW
KILBY, Frederick Son In Law Married M 38 1853 Railway Labourer
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
KILBY, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 37 1854 Cotton Factory Hand
Borrowash, Derbyshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:22

This matches the age in 1901

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
Kilby Elizabeth Huntingdon 3b 271

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2013 13:22

1911

Name: Frederick Kilby
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Ockbrook
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: Victoria Avenue Borrowash
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Slatelayer (rarlway Company)
Registration District: Shardlow
Registration District Number: 434
Sub-registration District: Spondon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 20856
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Kilby 57 Married 30 years no children
Elizabeth Kilby 58
Annie Hibbins 18, Neice b. Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England
Aubrey Doss 7, Nephew, b. Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:24

Always look for variants........................

1891 census

Person: HIBBINS, Elizabeth Address: Great Whyte, Ramsey

HIBBINS, John Head Married M 32 1859 Labourer In Printing Press Making Works
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
HIBBINS, Mary Wife Married F 27 1864
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
HIBBINS, John Son M 4 1887
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
HIBBINS, Mary J Daughter F 3 1888
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
HIBBINS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1885
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire VIEW
KILBY, Frances Stepmother Widow F 67 1824
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:27

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
BUTCHER Henry Huntingdon 3b 436
HIBBINS John Huntingdon 3b 436 *************
Kilby Mary Huntingdon 3b 436 **************
Richardson Annie Huntingdon 3b 436

Obviously, Elizabeth was born before her mother married.............which would explain her being listed after the two younger children, who were legitimate

And Frances Kilby in 1891 is Mary's relation.............not her husband's

Anita

Anita Report 4 Sep 2013 13:31

I have done variants 'til I'm blue in the face but am inclining to the relationship of Frederick and Elizabeth being uncle and niece not father and daughter despite the 1901 entry.
Thanks for those Reg looks like I am looking at sibling marriages. :-)

Anita

Anita Report 4 Sep 2013 13:34

Dear rootgather - what a spliendid moniker!
You have put another brick in the whole. Elizabeth had a sister called @Nancy@ who may be the Annie in the 1911.
:-)

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:34

In 1881, Frances was in the Workhouse
KILBY, Frances Inmate Single F 57 1824 Field Worker
Ramsey, Huntingdonshire

NOTE that she was single...........so could hardly have been a widow under the same name.........................


1871......................

KILBY, Fanny Pauper Inmate F 46 1825 Huntingdonshire VIEW
KILBY, Jane Pauper Inmate F 12 1859 Huntingdonshire VIEW
KILBY, Mary Pauper Inmate F 3 1868 Huntingdonshire VIEW

Fanny was unmarried.................Jane had been born in Workhouse

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2013 13:35

Births Sep 1892 Kilby Annie Eliza Huntingdon 3b 293

or

Births Sep 1891 HIBBENS Annie Huntingdon 3b 259

1901

Name: Annie Hibbins
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Hibbins
Mother's Name: Mary A Hibbins
Gender: Female
Where born: Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ramsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas a Becket
Town: Ramsey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Huntingdon
Sub-registration District: Ramsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 54
Piece: 1470
Folio: 25
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hibbins 42
Mary A Hibbins 47
John Hibbins 14
Mary J Hibbins 12
Annie Hibbins 10
Ernest Baker 12
Charles Baker 10


Marriages Sep 1886
BUTCHER Henry Huntingdon 3b 436
HIBBINS John Huntingdon 3b 436
Kilby Mary Huntingdon 3b 436
Richardson Annie Huntingdon 3b 436


Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:37

I've taken you back to the unmarried grandmother.......................

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Sep 2013 13:42

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331027

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2013 13:46

1861

Name: Frederick Kilby
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Kilby
Mother's Name: Mary Kilby
Gender: Male
Where born: Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ramsey
Town: Ramsey
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image

Registration District: Huntingdon
Sub-registration District: Ramsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 160
Piece: 971
Folio: 37
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
William Kilby 47
Mary Kilby 47
William Kilby 15
George Kilby 13
Frederick Kilby 9


Not seeing Frederick and Mary A Kilby together on a census!

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Sep 2013 16:00

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331151