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Charles Collins DOB1859 married Martha GurneyDOB1861 they had 8 children Thomas Collins DOB1908, Charles Collins DOB1892, Harry CollinsDOB1898, Frank CollinsDOB1902,Jessie CollinsDOB1900, Mary CollinsDOB1907, John CollinsDOB unknown, I have the marriage for Elizabeth Collins as she is my grandmother but they lived in Chiswick,Middlesex I'm looking for the marriages of these children and the names of the children they had

For ref, is this the right family?


1911 England Census about Charles Collins
Name: Charles Collins
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Hogarth Lane, Chiswick
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: House And Estate Agent And General Repairer Of Houses Properly
Registration District: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Schedule Number: 16
Piece: 6933
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Collins 52
Martha Collins 49
Lizzie Collins 15
Harry Collins 13
Jessie Collins 11
Frank Collins 9
Nellie Collins 6
John Collins 4

All children, except Lizzie, born in Chiswick.

for reference

1901
Charles Collins 42
Martha Collins 38
Charles Collins 9
Lizzie Collins 4
Harry Collins 2
Jessie Collins 6 Months



1911

Charles Collins

Age in 1911:52
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1859
Birth Place:Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Chiswick
County/Island:Middlesex
Street Address:9 Hogarth Lane, Chiswick

Occupation:
House And Estate Agent And General Repairer Of Houses Properly

Charles Collins 52
Martha Collins 49
Lizzie Collins 15
Harry Collins 13
Jessie Collins 11
Frank Collins 9
Nellie Collins 6
John Collins 4

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ngland & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Jessie Martha Collins
Name: Jessie Martha Collins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 113

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Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)
Collins Jessie M Jennings Edmonton 3a 2535
Jennings Arthur J Collins Edmonton 3a 2535

Their marriages should be on FreeBMD, if they did marry

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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Martha Collins
Name: Martha Collins
Birth Date: abt 1861
Date of Registration: Jun 1919
Age at Death: 58
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 178


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Charles Collins
Name: Charles Collins
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914
Age at Death: 62
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 175


So looks like the family moved to Brentford Middlesex

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Marriages Dec 1917
Collins Frank Saxton Brentford 3a 180
Saxton Marion Collins Brentford 3a 180


Marriages Jun 1928
Collins Jessie Hall Brentford 3a 458
Hall George S Collins Brentford 3a 458



Not sure how you would know that these are the correct people without buying the marriage certificate.

Name: Frank Collins
Spouse Surname: Weight
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 197
Find Spouse:Ellen V Weight

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Anthony E Collins
Name: Anthony E Collins
Mother's Maiden Surname: Weight
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 306


Check for marriages and children born on FreeBMD for Brentford reg district for the other siblings

Looks like Harry died unmarried in WW1

COLLINS, HARRY WILLIAM

Rank: Private
Service No: 115839
Date of Death: 18/10/1918
Age: 19
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) 50th Bn.
Grave Reference B. 1.
Cemetery QUIETISTE MILITARY CEMETERY, LE CATEAU

Additional Information:

Son of Charles and Martha Collins, of 9, Hogarth Lane, Chiswick, London.



EDIT

Births Sep 1898 COLLINS Harry William Brentford 3a 131

Would think that 1917 marriage was a bit early for Frank as he was born in 1902

Yes definately would be Shirley. Sorry - I'll leave it there so your comment doesn't look silly - like me!!

Perhaps this is Harry's birth - which would mean he's not the one whose death Rootsgatherer posted above:

Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
Collins Henry George Brentford 3a 157

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Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
Collins John Edward Brentford 3a

Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
COLLINS John Sydney Brentford 3a 113

marriage
Name: Charles Collins
Spouse Surname: Brett
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 227
spouse Rose E Brett

:-D you aint silly Rootgatherer. we all trying to help . ;-)

Karen Marie -
You say they had 8 children.

According to 1911 census, they had 10, all living as at 1911.

Lizzie, Harry, Frank, Jessie, John, Nellie, Charles, on censuses - and 3 others.
Mary and Thomas you've mentioned.
One other?

I don't see any Collins/Gurney births from 1911 onwards.

Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Collins Thomas Brentford 3a 152

I don't see a Mary Collins born in Brentford in 1907, but there's this one in 1901. Is this her??

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Collins Mary Ann Brentford 3a 76

but where is she on the censuses, whenever she was born?

EDIT:
No that's not the right one - she's with her parents in 1911 - a different family.

Perhaps ArgyllGran - but he may have been born at the end on 1898? And it could be a co-incidence that the Henry George Collins and Harry both have parents named Charles and Martha.


Births Sep 1904 Collins Nellie Louisa Brentford 3a 156

The family seem to have been in Brentford are all along, and chiswick comes under Brentford reg district:

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)

COLLINS Charles Brentford 3a 99
GURNEY Martha Brentford 3a 99