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Thomas John

Thomas John Report 18 Sep 2013 10:23

Hi my name is Thomas John (Ian) Murray known as Ian, I have just joined Genes Reunited and I am looking for information on the Murray's From Glenboig, Lanarkshire, and Stirlingshire, Scotland. My Grandfather is James Russell Murray Born 11th July 1869 in Falkirk Stirlingshire Married Jennie Ferguson Born 28th Jan 1866 Chryston, Lanarkshire they had nine children William1914, William Ferguson 1901, Mary McCall 1900,Elizabeth Tennant 1903, Mary McCall 1909, Margaret Morris 1905, James Russell 1905, David Johnston McCall 1912, John Tennant 1922 :-)

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Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Sep 2013 10:27

What info are you hoping for?

Nothing after 1901 can be accessed anywhere other than on Scotlands People website

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Sep 2013 10:33

I don't believe that a woman born 1866 was giving birth in 1922

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 11:24

Hi Thomas,
Welcome to the boards.
In your list of children, you have Mary McCall Murray b 1900.
There is just one birth for a child with this name between 1899 and 1901
The birth was registered in Coatbridge 1900.
( Glenboig, is in Coatbridge)

This is the child with her parents but she does not match with your info?


1901 Scotland Census
about Mary Murray
Name:Mary Murray
Age:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1900
Relationship:Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name:James Murray
Mother's Name:Jane Murray
Gender:Female
Where born:Coatbridge, Lanarkshire
Registration number:652/2
Registration District:Coatbridge
Civil Parish:Old Monkland
County:Lanarkshire
Address:3 Moore Street
ED:1
Household Schedule Number:156
Line:11
Roll:CSSCT1901_346
Household Members:


James Murray 29 Coal Miner. B LOCHMABEN, Dumfriesshire
Jane Murray 30 wife. B Coatbridge
Joseph Murray 4 son b Coatbridge
Elizabeth A Murray 4 daughter b Coatbridge
Mary Murray 1 Daughter b Coatbridge

( This James Murray can be found on earlier census return. He was born in Dumfries and his father was called Joseph Murray)

By searching on Scotlands People, Mary McCall Murray was most probably born to James Murray and Jane Mowat who married in Coatbridge 1895


Susan

Susan Report 18 Sep 2013 11:46

Just a possible.

1871 Scotland Census
about James R Marr Name: James R Marr
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: David L Marr
Mother's Name: Marie Marr
Gender: Male
Where born: Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Registration number: 479/1
Registration District: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Pleasance
ED: 5
Household Schedule Number: 180
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_83
Household Members: Name Age
David L Marr 30
Marie Marr 29
Thomas S Marr 10
Agnes L Marr 6
James R Marr 2
Hender B Marr 4 Mo
Isabella McNarphtan 15


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 11:55


1901 Scotland Census about Jeannie Murray
Name: Jeannie Murray
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Murray
Gender: Female
Where born: Chryston, Lanark
Registration number: 479
Registration District: Falkirk
Civil Parish: Falkirk
Town: Falkirk
County: Stirlingshire
Address: 38 Bankside
ED: 15
Household Schedule Number: 233
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_156
Household Members:
Name Age
James Murray 28 - born Falkirk
Jeannie Murray 22

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 11:56




father:William Murray
mother:Elizabeth Tennant

NameJames Russell Murray
GenderMale
Christening Date
Christening Place
Birth Date11 Jul 1869
BirthplaceFALKIRK,STIRLING,SCOTLAND
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's NameWilliam Murray
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's NameElizabeth Tennant
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC11479-3
System OriginScotland-ODM
GS Film number6035516
Reference ID

Children from OP
Elizabeth Tennant Murray Registered Cadder, Lanarkshire 1903
James Russell Murray. Registered Cadder, Lanarkshire 1905
Margaret Morris Murray Registered Cadder, Lanarkshire 1907

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 12:03

Well found ArgyllGran.
They are James Murray and Jeanie Ferguson
Marriage registered in Airdrie, Lanarkshire 1899
EDIT:
both James and Jeanie seem too young to be the parents identified in the OP.
Thomas needs to obtain this marriage cert to confirm who their parents were:


1881
Name:Jeanie Ferguson
Age:3
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1878
Relationship:Daughter
Father's Name: William Ferguson
Mother's Name: Mary Ferguson
Gender:Female
Where born: Cadder, Lanarksh
Registration number 626A/2
Registration District: Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish:Cadder
County:Lanarkshire
Address:Chryston

William Ferguson 29
Mary Ferguson 28
David Ferguson 7
Annie Ferguson5
Jeanie Ferguson3
Janet Ferguson 9 Mo

(all born in Cadder)


1891 Scotland Census
about William Ferguson
Name:William Ferguson
Age:37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name :Mary Ferguson
Gender:Male
Where born:Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration number:626A/2
Registration District:Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish:Cadder Eastern District
County:Lanarkshire
Address:39 Fire Clay Works
Occupation:Miner F Clay
Household Members:

William Ferguson 37
Mary Ferguson 36
David Ferguson 17
Annie Ferguson 15
Jeanie Ferguson 11 ***
Janet Ferguson 10
John Ferguson 6
Mary Ferguson 5


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:32

Elizabeth Tennant Murray's parents were James Murray, engine keeper, and Jeanie Murray, ms Ferguson, married Old Monkland, July 1899.
Elizabeth's date of birth: 14/07/1903

Thomas John, you can buy credits on ScotlandsPeople, and check the other children's births yourself.
2 credits for initial searches, then 5 credits to view the image.

Also check the image for the 1901 census I posted above, in case their ages were mistranscribed.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:37

Where did you get your grandparents' birth dates from, Thomas John?
Do you have their birth certs?

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 12:40

I will guess that Jeanie Ferguson was born in Cadder circa 1878 the daughter of:
William Ferguson and Mary McCall.
She is not the mother identified on your opening post

If you can confirm this Thomas, we can help with the ancestry... it's all there on census data!
However, we also need to see where you fit in, as your OP mentions Glenboig.
Unless the above family moved there after 1908, I can see no connection to the Murray family in Coatbridge???

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:47


If GlasgowLass is correct, this is the family:

(EDIT: Sorry, GL, you've already posted this)

1881 Scotland Census about Jeanie Ferguson
Name: Jeanie Ferguson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William Ferguson
Mother's Name: Mary Ferguson
Gender: Female
Where born: Cadder, Lanarksh
Registration number: 626A/2
Registration District: Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish: Cadder
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Chryston
ED: 2
Household Schedule Number: 157
Line: 5
Roll: cssct1881_205
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ferguson 29
Mary Ferguson 28
David Ferguson 7
Annie Ferguson 5
Jeanie Ferguson 3
Janet Ferguson 9 Mo

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:49


1891 Scotland Census about William Ferguson (EDIT: Sorry GL, I see you've already posted this.)

Name: William Ferguson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Ferguson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 626A/2
Registration District: Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish: Cadder Eastern District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 39 Fire Clay Works
Occupation: Miner F Clay
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 213
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_227
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ferguson 37
Mary Ferguson 36
David Ferguson 17
Annie Ferguson 15
Jeanie Ferguson 11
Janet Ferguson 10
John Ferguson 6
Mary Ferguson 5

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:50

Jeanie's father's family??


1871 Scotland Census about William Ferguson
Name: William Ferguson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John Ferguson
Mother's Name: Janet Ferguson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 626A/2
Registration District: Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish: Cadder
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Toll House
Occupation: Limestone Miner
ED: 2
Household Schedule Number: 120
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1871_119
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ferguson 47
Janet Ferguson 38
James Ferguson 25
William Ferguson 20
John Ferguson 10
Elizabeth Ferguson 5
Robert Ferguson 3

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:51


1861 Scotland Census about William Ferguson
Name: William Ferguson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John Ferguson
Mother's Name: Janet Ferguson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 626/2
Registration District: Cadder Eastern District
Civil Parish: Cadder
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 1 Garnkirk
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 3
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1861_93
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ferguson 35
Janet Ferguson 30
James Ferguson 14
Ann Ferguson 12
William Ferguson 10
Jean Fleming 80

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 12:55


1851 Scotland Census about William Ferguson
Name: William Ferguson
Age: 11 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John Ferguson
Mother's Name: Janet Ferguson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadder, Lanark
Parish Number: 626
Civil Parish: Cadder
Town: Chryston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Chryston
ED: 8
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 32
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_150
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ferguson 28
Janet Ferguson 25
James Ferguson 5
Ann Ferguson 3
William Ferguson 11 Mo
Janet Sitshirson 21 - obviously a mistranscribed surname - buy credits to view the image, Thomas John)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 13:01

I'm with you on the census data ArgyllGran.
This is definitely The Ferguson family.
It's Thomas's OP that has me concerned.
Where does Glenboig, in Coatbridge come into the mix?
The family of James Murray and Jeanie Ferguson were definitely still in Cadder at 1907.

Thomas's father would need to be their son, but which son, and where was he born?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Sep 2013 13:10

As TJ is a new poster, I've sent him a PM to tell him how to come back to his thread.
We need his feedback!

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 13:13

Thankies ArgyllGran. <3

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 Sep 2013 13:35

Found on an Ancestry tree:
Bedlay Cemetery, Moodiesburn, Lanarkshire

Gravestone erected by Jeanie Ferguson in memory of her beloved husband James Murray died 2 June 1938 also their children Mary, William & David who died in infancy. Also their son James died 27 June 1953 aged 48. Also Jeanie Ferguson died 28 Jan 1966

The info also confirms that James Murray died in Glenboig!

Attached to the tree is also details of the lair purchase with and shows the family burials.
The purchase date coincides with the death of the 1st child James Murray born and died in 1899