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Betty Monkhouse

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Peter

Peter Report 21 Sep 2013 21:29

Yes with it being so close to 1861 - I'll think about buying

patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 06:46

Having the address and name of informant and you may be lucky

Peter

Peter Report 19 Sep 2013 21:48

I don't patchem. Although I suspect there would be little clue.

patchem

patchem Report 19 Sep 2013 17:29

Have you got her actual death certificate to see if it gives any further clue?

Peter

Peter Report 19 Sep 2013 16:30

It is a real shame I can't find Betty in 1851 - would confirm her birthplace to then look for her parents etc!

Peter

Peter Report 19 Sep 2013 16:27

Hi there, thank you so much for this help. Hannah Lever (nee Monkhouse) is my direct ancestor, through a son Michael Lever, born 1853.

On another NOTE, I wonder if the ages of Hannah and Jane MONKHOUSE shown in the 1841, were merely incorrectly recorded?

What do you think? I have ASSUMED that but wonder if I need to investigate further?

Cheers,

Peter

PS Fascinating link about the missing census returns!

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 08:42

Not with her daughter..................

1851 census


Person: LEVER, Hannah Address: 2, Gales Square, All Saints, Bolton

LEVER, James Head Married M 27 1824 Labourer Our Servant
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
LEVER, Hannah Wife Married F 27 1824
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
LEVER, William Son M 8 1843
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
HORISTON, John Nephew Married M 25 1826 Painter
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
HORISTON, Maria Niece Married F 22 1829 Factory Hand
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
CROSSLEY, Margaret Niece Unmarried F 20 1831 Weaver Cotton
Bolton, Lancashire VIEW
MONKHOUSE, Jane Sister In Law Unmarried F 23 1828 Factory Hand
Bolton, Lancashire

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 08:41

Baptism: 15 Jan 1804 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Jacob Monkhouse - Son of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: G. Bolton
Register: Baptisms 1796 - 1812, Page 14
Source: LDS Film 1966136

Baptism: 19 Jan 1806 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Mary Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: L. B.
Register: Baptisms 1796 - 1812, Page 19
Source: LDS Film 1966136

Baptism: 26 Jun 1808 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Sarah Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: L. Bolton
Register: Baptisms 1796 - 1812, Page 25
Source: LDS Film 1966136

Baptism: 11 Nov 1810 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Jane Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: Little Bolton
Register: Baptisms 1796 - 1812, Page 30
Source: LDS Film 1966136

Baptism: 3 Jan 1813 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Margaret Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: Little Bolton
Occupation: joiner
Baptised by: William Thistlethwaite, Perp. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 1, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1966156 item 1

Baptism: 27 May 1821 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Hannah Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: Little Bolton
Occupation: joiner
Baptised by: William Thistlethwaite, Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 44, Entry 350
Source: LDS Film 1966156 item 1

Baptism: 18 May 1828 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Jane Monkhouse - Daughter of Michael Monkhouse & Betty
Abode: Little Bolton
Occupation: joiner
Baptised by: William Thistlethwaite, Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 79, Entry 626
Source: LDS Film 1966156 item 1
There were 7 matches for this search!

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 08:36

This confirms her birth year

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
MONKHOUSE Betsy 75 Little Bolton Bolton LB/25/154

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Sep 2013 08:31

Look at the following........you may find it informative

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/help-and-advice/knowledge-base/census/known-issues#2

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2013 05:37

The marriage of Michael Monkhouse and Betty Hurst is also on ancestry, and you can also look at the Parish Register.

It does not however give any more information, except that the witnesses were William Southern and Wm Orrell

These two witnesses also witnessed 2 more marriages on the same page, so were probably what is called "professional witnesses" ........................ men (usually) who would witness a marriage for a small payment.


Also on ancestry, in case you do not have them



Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about Hannah Monkhouse
Name: Hannah Monkhouse
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1845
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Father's Name: Michael Monkhouse
Spouse's Name: James Lever
Spouse's Father's Name: William Lever
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/4/32



Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about Jane Monkhouse
Name: Jane Monkhouse
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1857
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Father's Name: Michael Monkhouse
Spouse's Name: John Powell
Spouse's Father's Name: William Powell
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/4/43


This might be another ............


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about Sarah Crosby
Name: Sarah Crosby
Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Date: 28 Aug 1843
Parish: Deane, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Deane
Father's Name: Michael Monkhouse
Spouse's Name: Joseph Pickram
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Pickram
Reference Number: GB127.L85/1/3/10

Sarah is shown as a widow, and Michael is a Joiner, as he is on the other 2 certificates

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2013 04:56

I found this death for husband Michael on ancestry .................


Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Michael Monkhouse
Age: 63
Burial Date: 7 Jan 1844
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/5/12


Note the Parish


I then found this marriage on www.familysearch.org/


"England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Michael Monkhouse
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Betty Hurst
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 13 Apr 1803
Event Place: Saint Peter,Bolton Le Moors,Lancashire,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00715-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0844811 IT 2, 559179, 559180
Reference ID:
Sources



same Parish!


There are also recorrds of several children with parents Michael and Betty Monkhouse, in Little Bolton, different parish

There are even a Jane and a Hannah ................. but this Hannah was baptised in 1821, and the Jane in 1828 ............. so older than the Hannah and Jane on the 1841 Census.

Peter

Peter Report 19 Sep 2013 01:18

Hi there,

Looking for my ancestor Betty/Elizabeth Monkhouse in the 1851 census - I know all about her marriage which took place in 1803 in Bolton to Michael Monkhouse (her maiden name was Hurst). All I am looking is Betty in 1851 (for her birthplace) and any information on her birth.

She didn't die until 1860 and I have searched but can't see her.

Here she is in 1841, mistranscribed:


1841 England Census about Elizabeth Markland
Name: Elizabeth Markland
[Elizabeth Monkhouse]
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton Le Moors
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Bolton
Sub-registration District: Little Bolton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 536
Book: 9
Folio: 27
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Markland 60
Elizabeth Markland 56
Hannah Markland 11
Jane Markland 9
Mary Horroben 35
John Horroben 13
Robert Horroben 11
Betty Horroben 8
Michael Horroben 6
Jacob Horroben 4
Henry Horroben 2

Here is her death:

Name: Betsy Monkhouse
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1860
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 161

Thank you in advance!

Peter