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Mising from the 1881 Census

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Rodney Report 19 Sep 2013 09:19

For a long time now I have been looking for my Grandfather in the 1881 Census without any luck.
He was born 1850 in Lyndhurst, Hampshire,England.

In 1871 census at 9 Manington Place Holdenhurst boarder aged 21 years a Groom but interesting Stephen Stevens aged 29 head of house was a painter employing 3 men and his wife Mary aged 26 was born Lyndhurst

In 1891 census was living with wife of one year at 11 Romsey Rd, St Thomas, Winchester Occupation House Painter (Journeyman).. However age is given as 46 b. 1845 Lyndhurst, he was actualy aged 41.

I have a vague recollection that he had a Army pension of some sort so wondering if he was abroad at that time, maybe in the Boer war.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers Rod Macey

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 19 Sep 2013 09:26

What was your Grandfather's name?


Susan Report 19 Sep 2013 09:27

What is your Grandfathers name please? :-D


Vera Report 19 Sep 2013 09:34

Am presuming it is Frederick Macey ???

Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born Image
133 BURNERVEER, Henry Head Married M 46 1845 Painter
Easton, Winchester VIEW
133 BURNERVEER, Louisa Wife F 44 1847
Winchester VIEW
133 BURNERVEER, Frances Daughter Single F 14 1877
Northington, Hampshire VIEW
133 BURNERVEER, David Son M 9 1882
Northington, Hampshire VIEW
133 BURNERVEER, Eva Daughter F 5 1886
Winchester, Hampshire VIEW
133 BURNERVEER, Mabel Daughter F 3 1888
Winchester, Hampshire VIEW
>>>>>>134 MACEY, Frederick Husband Married M 46 1845 Painter
Lyndhurst, Hampshire VIEW
134 MACEY, Annie Wife Married F 26 1865
East Stratton, Hampshire VIEW
RG number: RG12
Piece: 936
Folio: 130
Page: 18
Sub District: Winchester
Enumeration District: 5
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas
Municipal Borough: Winchester
Address: 11, Romsey Road, St Thomas, Weeke, Winchester
County: Hampshire

Regards Vera


Flip Report 19 Sep 2013 09:38

Where did you get the 1871 census info - the family do not have a lodger living with them??

Mary T Stevens
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Stephen Stevens
Gender: Female
Where born: Lyndhurst, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Holdenhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration District: Christchurch
Sub-registration District: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household Schedule Number: 219
Piece: 1179
Folio: 25
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Stevens 29
Mary T Stevens 26
James T Stevens 4
Bessie L Stevens 2
Emily M Stevens 15

I've checked the image - NO lodger


Susan Report 19 Sep 2013 09:47

Just a stab in the dark really

1881 England Census
about Frederick Macey Name: Frederick Macey
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Macey
Gender: Male
Where born: Erith, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Lymington
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 70 High Street

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Painter

Registration District: Lymington
Sub-registration District: Lymington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1189
Folio: 25
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Macey 62
Frederick Macey 27
Sarah M. Macey 24

This one is a painter


Vera Report 19 Sep 2013 09:58

Births Dec 1849 (>99%)

MACEY Frederick N Forest 8 183

Regards Vera


Sylvia Report 19 Sep 2013 15:50

Is this the one in 1871 you found in London

England Census about Frederick Macey
Name: Frederick Macey
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsland, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Haggerstone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Haggerston West
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household Schedule Number: 66
Piece: 466
Folio: 44
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Payne 52
Caroline Payne 48
Charles James Payne 27
John Doroling 10
Gustavis Lovel 4
Frederick Macey 21
George Elliott 34

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Rodney Report 19 Sep 2013 23:19

Firstly thanks to all who have replied to my question on Frederick Macey born 1850 Lyndhurst Hampshire.

Vera - yes this is is what I have from the 1891 census and it all ties up.

Flip - Yes I somehow got it wrong in the 1871 census thanks for pointing it out. However if you look he is next door at number 10 Mannington Place a boarder at the Laidlaw household, along with his brother Charles correct age and born Lyndhurst occupation correct as a Taylor.
Frederick me thinks lodged there but worked for Stephen Stevens who was a painter, Frederick is given as a Groom which must be an error.

Susan - Yes I found this incorrect one years ago and led me a fine dance at the time but thanks anyway.

Sylvia - Thanks but see my response to Flip.

Extra comment which might assist

Witnesses at marriage were William and Fanny Carter:-
1881 census at Ramalley, Hursley Hants.-
William, age 45, b 1863 in Compton Hants, Head Ag.Lab
Fanny, age 45, b 1863 in Upham Hants
with 7 children all born in Hursley

Cheers Rod