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Looking for Jeanie Adams Alexander

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Elaine

Elaine Report 20 Sep 2013 20:30

I am looking for a Jeanie Adams Alexander, I have no idea of birth date but she had an illegitimate child in 1928 called Mary Alexander when she was working as a servant, the child was called Mary Alexander who was born in Goole, Yorkshire. Jeanies parents I believe were called William (1874-1956) and Annie (or Ann) Alexander, William was originally from Scotland and eventually ended up living in Goole, both William and Annie died in Goole, as far as I am aware William was a Journeyman Joiner. Jeanie went to London were she worked as a servant and the trail ends there, I know that Mary visited her mother in London when she was an adult but always thought she was her sister, Mary was brought up by her grandparents believing them to be her parents. Does anyone have any info on this family, Regards, Ellie.

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patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 20:34

Just for ref:
Deaths Dec 1956
Alexander William 82 Goole 2b 496

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Sep 2013 20:37

Hi Ellie, if you can find William and Annie's marriage then that will give you Annie's maiden name which in turn may help pinpoint Jeanie's birth.

EDIT: Do you know if William came from Scotland before or after marriage?

patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 20:44

Mary is in someone's tree on here
Have you contacted them?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Sep 2013 20:47

Its possible Jeannie may have been the informant on one of the death certs of her parents

patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 20:51

Is the 1946 death correct, as birth in 1896 possibly too late?
Deaths Mar 1946
Alexander Ann J 72 Goole 9c 1082
Deaths Jun 1954
Alexander Annie 58 Goole 2b 512

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Sep 2013 20:54

Is this Jeannie?

Name: Jeannie Alexander
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Edinburgh, Edinboro
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: Nurses Home, Ifield House, 29 Howards Road, Plaistow, E
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Probationer sick Nurse For Maternity Nursing
Registration District: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration District: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Schedule Number: 359

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Sep 2013 21:37

Problem if a scottish christian name then she could have been Jane, Jean, Janet or Jeannette

patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 21:45

Just to eliminate;
Janet Adam Alexander
Year: 1932
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street Address: 108 Southgate Road

with John Ferguson Alexander

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Sep 2013 22:06

Hi,

When Mary went to visit Jeanie in London, do you know roughly what year and an area?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Sep 2013 22:23

Would really like to find this little lady in 1911. Maybe not related but at least we could rule her out as a sister to Jeanie??



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index
Name: Hannah Adams Alexander
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Registration District: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 76

patchem

patchem Report 20 Sep 2013 23:07

BatMansDaughter,
That birth does not show on free bmd, and when I click on the link on ancestry I get taken to totally the wrong page (Lots of Hills)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Sep 2013 23:47

Really strange that 1910 posting as if you go the long way round and look at 1910 1st qtr for letter A then it is not listed at all under Alexander

Flip

Flip Report 20 Sep 2013 23:47

No one on the page Ancesty takes you to has that ref, nor does she come up on a freebmd search under that ref. Stange

Like Pat says Ancestry takes you to H's

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Sep 2013 23:53

Well what would you know!! How on 'eck did they get that???

From freebmd,


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
ALEXANDER Hannah Adams S. Shields 10a 76_

Edit,
Oops, that first line doesn't sound quite right, meant it to be more like; well what would ya know. Silly ancestry!!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Sep 2013 23:54

1911 England Census about Hannah Adams Alexander
Name: Hannah Adams Alexander
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Jarrow, Durham, England
Civil Parish: South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Spohr Terrace So Shields
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Draper Assistant
Registration District: South Shields
Registration District Number: 556
Sub-registration District: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Piece: 30296
Household Members:
Name Age
James Alexander 53
Jane Alexander 55
Elizabeth Alexander 26
Hannah Adams Alexander 24
James Alexander 2

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 21 Sep 2013 15:14

Hello Elaine and welcome to the Community boards. :-)






I'll send Elaine a message to let her know about her replies. :-)

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Sep 2013 16:30

The correct page number for the birth dec 1886 ALEXANDER Hannah Adams S. Shields 10a 76 posted by BatMansDaughter Should read page 768

Roy

Flip

Flip Report 21 Sep 2013 17:04

Hi Ellie,

There are 2 deaths for Ann/Annie in Goole, do you have any idea which is the right one?

Ann J Alexander
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Mar 1946
Age at Death: 72
Registration District: Goole
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 1082

OR

Annie Alexander
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Jun 1954
Age at Death: 58
Registration District: Goole
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2b
Page: 512

All though this second one would have been 22 years younger than William and hardly old enough to be a grandmother in 1928 - though not impossible if she had married very young.

Although, the other one would have been 54 when Mary born, so surely too old to have been thought of as her mother? How sure are you about the William/Ann(ie) grandparents you think brought up Mary?

Did Mary marry Lewis Smith in 1949 and have 3 sons between 1950 and 1959?

ADDED: Sorry Pat, I see you have already posted these 2 deaths.

Elaine

Elaine Report 21 Sep 2013 20:08

Thank you all for the replies, the census post for 1911 looks interesting, it is thought that Mary's father may have been a doctor!

The story goes, she was a servant in London, got pregnant, came to parents in Goole to have baby, left baby with parents, went back to London, think before Mary left school was told Jeanie was her mother (until then she thought she was her sister) this was after one of her school friends commented on how old her parents were, when about 18 went to Kensington in London to see Jeanie, she was still a servant (this must have been around 1946) Mary married Lewis Smith and had 3 sons, the youngest is my brother in law whom I'm doing the research.

I cant find a marriage so am assuming they married in Scotland, Mary signed her grandfathers death certificate, we think Jeanie was born in Scotland and probably an only child as Mary never spoke of any relatives other than those mentioned, we do have a photo and on the reverse it says 'to uncle bill and aunt annie and wee mary from nephew Eddie. My brother in law remembers visiting Dunblane in Scotland as a child to see a relative, this could have been Eddie. We do not know anything more about Eddie, not even a surname.

I am very grateful to all that have responded and for the information you have so kindly given.