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Albert John Delahaye

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James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 15:43

Hi! I have been trying to trace my father's line back and have become unstuck after my grandfather. (Sounds terrible doesn't it?) My problem is, The family is from Jersey, and either my great granddad or my great great granddad is Albert John Delahaye (Could be spelled De La Haye). According my the family, this man was found as a baby abandoned on the church steps by someone never identified. He was named by the church, given a very common name for the time and each year money for his upkeep would be found in the church. (I don't know how they knew it was for him and not just random money) I have searched high and low for records of him, but have found nothing. There is an Albert John Delahaye on one of the census' in jersey at 15 living as a lodger and working the farm he lived on, but without knowing when Albert was abandoned, I can't know for sure if this farm boy is my ancestor. If anyone has any advice or can help I would be eternally grateful I am happy to find out literally anything about him!

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 15:44

Dates, please.......................

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2013 15:47

???

1911 census transcription details for: Near Church St Peter's Jersey
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN34825 RD637 SD2 ED9/1 SN68
Reg. District: Jersey
Sub District:
Parish: St Peter
Enum. District: 9/1
Address: Near Church St Peter's Jersey
County: Jersey
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DE LA HAYE, Albert John Head Married M 29 1882 Church Caretaker Jersey S Peter
DE LA HAYE, Elizabeth Wife Married
7 years F 32 1879 Jersey S John
DE LA HAYE, Albert John Son M 5 1906 Jersey S Oven


??? Name is De La Haye.


1891 census transcription details for: Cottage, Clifton Place, St Peter, Vingtaine Of St Nicolas
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4700
Folio: 38
Page: 2
Reg. District: Jersey
Sub District: H
Parish: St Peter
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: Grande Vingtaine
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cottage, Clifton Place, St Peter, Vingtaine Of St Nicolas
County: Jersey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DE LA HARPE, George Head Married M 43 1848 Farmer
St Brelade, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Elizabeth J Wife Married F 45 1846 House Keeper
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Eliza J Daughter F 16 1875 Farmers Daughter
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, George Son M 14 1877 Farmers Son
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Francis Cls Son M 12 1879 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Alfred Son M 10 1881 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
>>DE LA HARPE, Albert J Son M 8 1883 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Alice Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Elen G Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Ann Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
St Peters, Jersey
DE LA HARPE, Emily Daughter F 1 1890
St Peters, Jersey

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 25 Sep 2013 15:48

Welcome to the boards James.

Could you tell us a little more about your ancestor please?


1901 England Census about Albert E Delahaye
Name: Albert E Delahaye
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Member Of Crew (Member)
Gender: Male
Where born: St. Brelade, Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Aden
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration District: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad
Sub-registration District: RN Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: St George
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 1
Piece: 5333
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 25 Sep 2013 15:55

Have you any idea who brought him up and was the Delahaye name given to him when he was found or my the people who brought him up?

Name: Albert John De La Haye
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Peter, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish: St Peter
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Street Address: Near S Peter's Church -, Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Church Caretaker
Registration District: Jersey
Registration District Number: 637
Sub-registration District: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 9/1
Household Schedule Number: 68
Piece: 34825
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert John De La Haye 29
Elizabeth De La Haye 32
Albert John De La Haye 5

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 25 Sep 2013 15:55


1891 Channel Islands Census about Albert J Delahaye
Name: Albert J Delahaye
[Albert J de la Haye]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Delahaye
Mother's Name: Elizah J Delahaye
Gender: Male
Where born: St Peter, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ouen
Town: Vingtaine du Douet
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Registration District: Jersey
Sub-registration District: H
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 4700
Folio: 38
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
George Delahaye 43
Elizah J Delahaye 45
Eliza Delahaye 16
George Delahaye 14
Francis C Delahaye 12
Alfred Delahaye 10
Albert J Delahaye 8
Alice Delahaye 7
Elen G Delahaye 6
Ann Delahaye 4
Emily Delahaye 1

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 25 Sep 2013 16:00


1881 Channel Islands Census about George De La Haye
Name: George De La Haye
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Jane De La Haye
Gender: Male
Where born: St Brelade, Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil Parish: St Peter
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands

Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmer

Registration District: Jersey
Sub-registration District: M
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5622
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George De La Haye 33
Eliza Jane De La Haye 34
Eliza Jane De La Haye 6
George De La Haye 4
Francis C. De La Haye 2
Alfred De La Haye 5 MONTHS*******************

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:01

Alviegal, thank you for the look-up, however that Albert John Delahaye is not mine. I found that early in my search and it has since been discounted. The problem is Delahaye was a super common name and Albert John was no better. In saying that, I will definitely work on verifying again that this is not who I am looking for as this Albert has a son named after him and that has been common in my family, my grandfather was Albert John, and my aunt told me that since the man found on the church steps the family have always named a son Albert John. Worth triple checking.


All I have that is certain is my Grandfather was born in 1926, and even then, we don't know if he was born here or in Jersey. The family at some point moved to Bolton, where my grandfather married my grandmother and had his children, though we have no idea when.

I now can't find the census I found of the 15 year old farm hand, which is frustrating as I know I saw it somewhere. I really know nothing else about it as my father doesn't really talk about his history and both his parents are dead now. Thank you all for your help!

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2013 16:01

6 Albert John de la Haye (1882-1918) m Elizabeth Hamon (1875-1951) d of Clement (1836- ) and Helen Le Quesne (1842- )

7 Albert John de la Haye (1905-1994)


From http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Descendants_of_Philippe_de_la_Haye

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2013 16:06

So is this your grandfather?

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: DELAHAYE, Albert John
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 2002
Month of registration: July
Date of birth: 9 January 1926
District no: 0021A
Reg no: A70A
Ent no: 057
DOR: 702



Maybe his father?


Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: DE LA HAYE, Albert J
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1967
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 72
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 596

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:08

Tenerife Sun, I have no idea who chose the name, I was told, and the Jersey records site says the same thing, that when a baby is found abandoned, sometimes they give the christian name of the person who found them / looked after them and they get a surname relating to the place they were found. Alternatively they are given a name that is super common in the area. According to my dad, Albert John Delahaye was like John Smith then. Just a generic, common name.

Mel Fairy Godmother, that looks promising I'll do some digging thank you so much for the search!

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2013 16:10

1911 census transcription details for: Highview Farm Trinity Jersey
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN34949 RD637 SD2 ED10/6 SN3
Reg. District: Jersey
Sub District:
Parish: Trinity
Enum. District: 10/6
Address: Highview Farm Trinity Jersey
County: Jersey
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CABOT, Thomas Ahier Head Married M 27 1884 Farmer Jersey Trinity
CABOT, Eva Eliza Wife Married
2 years F 23 1888 Jersey Trinity
CABOT, Thomas John Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Jersey Trinity
DE LA HAYE, Albert Servant Single M 15 1896 Cowman On Farm Jersey St Saviours


I think this may be that Albert.


1901 census transcription details for: Aubrey Hall, St Saviour
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 5309
Folio: 115
Page: 13
Reg. District: Jersey
Sub District: Jersey - St Saviour
Parish: St Saviour
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Saviour's
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Aubrey Hall, St Saviour
County: Jersey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DE LA HAYE, Francois Head Married M 40 1861 Scavenger
St Helier's, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, Delicia J Wife Married F 30 1871
St Saviours, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, Francis C Son M 13 1888 School
St Saviours, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, Florence M Daughter F 11 1890 School
Trinity, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, George W Son M 9 1892 School
St Saviours, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, Emilly J Daughter F 6 1895 School
St Saviours, Jersey
>>DE LA HAYE, Albert C Son M 5 1896 School
St Saviours, Jersey
DE LA HAYE, Lizzy M Daughter F 1 1900
St Saviours, Jersey

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:12

Alviegal, yes that is my grandfather and my uncle (who goes by John) :)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 25 Sep 2013 16:12

Interesting ...
In the 1911 Albert born 1882 is a church care taker.

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:20

Yeah, I thought that was interesting too, one of my other aunts told me that my great granddad never married an elizabeth, but I'm not sure I can trust her facts, she knows more about my grandmothers side.

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2013 16:23

Sorry James. If the first death is your grandfather born 1926 died 2002, how could the other one be your uncle? He was 72 when he died in 1967 which makes a year of birth c1895.

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:28

OH! So sorry I am being an idiot. I didn't read properly. That could indeed be my grandfather's father. Thank you!

James

James Report 25 Sep 2013 16:51

Alviegal, it is looking like your second death record was my great grandfather. Struggling to find birth record for either my granddad or this albert strongly suspected of being his father though. This has been frustrating me for months!

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 26 Sep 2013 10:28

I think the first thing you need to have is the birth certificate/details of the 1926 Albert and to work backwards from there.

As you rightly day de la Haye is a common name in Jersey but I wouldn't think there were too many of them in the UK. I'm sure if he'd been born in the UK someone on here would have found him therefore I will check the birth indexes here in Jersey and see if I can find him.

After that I can have a go at finding the previous generation. If the first Albert was abandoned it will say so in the baptism register.

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 27 Sep 2013 17:17

I have found an Albert John de la Haye born 9/1/1926 in the parish of St Peter. His parents were Albert John and Marie (illegible but I would guess French).

I will look for a marriage between those 2 next week.