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can anyone have a look for martha she was born 1865 in kingswinford staffs have the family on the 1871 census mother ann father james she married joseph southall in 1892 and next see her on 1901 but where was she in 81&91 there was talk that she was in service at summerhill hse in kingswinford but don't know if this is true.
also the death of joseph and their son joseph after 1911.
thank you in advance for any help. :-)

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Name: Martha Baker
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 5
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Dudley, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Dudley
Sub-District: Sedgley
Parish: Sedgley
County: Staffordshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head James Baker M 40 Dudley, Staffordshire
Wife Ann Baker F 41 Dudley, Staffordshire
Daughter Mary Baker F 18 Dudley, Staffordshire
Daughter Jane Baker F 16 Dudley, Staffordshire
Son Edward Baker M 16 Dudley, Staffordshire
Daughter Martha Baker F 5 Dudley, Staffordshire
Daughter Margaret Baker F 3 Dudley, Staffordshire
Lodger Peter Hughes M 19 Bilston, Staffordshire

Name: Joseph Southall
Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Baker
Event Date: 17 Jul 1892
Event Place: Coseley, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01383-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470595
Reference ID: It 7

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Martha Baker in household of Christopher E Buxton, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Martha Baker
Age (Original): 16
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1865
Birthplace: Stafford
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: General Serv
Address: Coopers Arms 2 Thorneywood Lane
Event Place: Snenton, Nottinghamshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341799
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3348 / 92
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Christopher E Buxton M 38 Nottingham
Wife Ruth Buxton F 38 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Son Alfred Buxton M 5 Nottingham
Daughter Gertrude Buxton F 3 Nottingham
Son Albert Buxton M 1 Nottingham
Visitor Ruth Scraton F 66 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Boarder Henry Godfrey M 17 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Servant Martha Baker F 16 Stafford
Visitor Emma Clark F 13 , Norfolk, England

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Name: Joseph Southall
Birth Date: 1893
Birthplace:
Age: 26
Spouse's Name: Hannah Tyler
Spouse's Birth Date: 1896
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 23
Event Date: 06 Sep 1919
Event Place: St. James, Handsowrth, Stafford, England
Father's Name: Joseph Southall
Spouse's Father's Name: John William Tyler
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00931-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1520035
Reference ID: Item 4 Pg 87 No 173

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Annie Southall
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1896 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Mary Southall
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1899 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Daniel Southall
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1895 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Violet Susan Southall
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1899 Coseley
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Thomas Henry Southall
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1901 Coseley
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Ethel May Southall
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1896 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


John William Southall
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1897 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Emmie Southall
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1898 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Arthur Southall
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1900 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England


Thomas Southall
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1901 Coseley, Staffordshire
census: 31 March 1901 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

thank you both ann the 71 cesus and marriage are correct but not the handsworth one.
safc don't think the 81 is right the family have never had any connection to nottingham shire thanks anyway

I have the 1901 its the 81 and 91 where i can-not find her and she would have still been name baker

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still haven't found Martha on the census or the 2 Joseph deaths any help much appreciated
Thank you
Jackie

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I wouldn't discount the 1881 census found by Ann, servants often went to far distant counties with their employers, the only likely Martha Baker i can find in 1891 is also a servant, but in Yorkshire

1891 England Census about Martha Baker
Name: Martha Baker
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brierly Hill, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3572
Folio: 111
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas Arthur Hope 27
Elizabeth M Hope 24
Arthur O Hope 5/12
Elizabeth Haithwaite 21
Martha Baker 27 <<<<<<<

Just looking at the 1911 census, there are two possibles so am not sure which one is yours? both have sons called Joseph so without knowing who you are working back from it might be either?

1911 England Census

NAME: Martha Ann Southall
SPOUSE: Joseph Southall
BIRTH: abt 1864 - Netherton, Worcestershire
MARRIAGE: 1893
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Corsley, Staffordshire, England

1911 England Census
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NAME: Martha Elizabeth Southall
SPOUSE: Joseph Southall
BIRTH: abt 1866 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
MARRIAGE: 1885
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

I'm not sure rose I know people ravelled a long way for employment but never heard any talk about her going that far away, was she there in 1881?
Jackie

will have another look >>>>

There's a lot of Martha Bakers lol

1881 England Census about Martha Baker
Name: Martha Baker
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lye, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Rowley Regis
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 67 Reddall Hill Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Gen Servt
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2862
Folio: 88
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George L. Browne 31
Elizebeth Browne 30
Nora Browne 5
Beatrice Browne
Martha Baker 17
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On the other hand there is this one which is Kingswinford but out on age.

1881 England Census about Martha Baker
Name: Martha Baker
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Upper Swinford
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: Love Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Stourbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2888
Folio: 64
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Wood 43
Eliza J. Wood 43
James F. Wood 19
Alfred W. Wood 17
Ernest J.? Wood 16
Arthur Wood 14
George E. Wood 12
Harry Wood 10
Walter Wood 10
Charles Wood 8
Lilian E. Wood 5
Fredrick P. Wood 3
Mary A. White 22
Martha Baker 20
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my martha is the one married to joseph southall she was born in kingswinford in 1865 she died in 1945 age 80 in 1911 they lived in princes end victoria st their son joseph died as a child but he is on the 1911 census don't know when joe snr died she moved to high st princes end and owned a fish and chip shop don't think joe was alive by then. as for being a servant I just don't know I found one in ettinshall with someone name hughes and there was a hughes connection to the family
thanks for your help
Jackie

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