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Moira

Moira Report 15 Jan 2014 14:06

Birth cert of.
Lily King b. 28/3/1913 Duddeston Birmingham
Parents are Emma King formerly Corns and John King corporation Labourer
I have found Emma and John on the 1911 census John working as Labourer for Drainage board. married for 6 years an no children.
I cannot find a marriage for John and Emma
John was in India in the army for some time.
I would be grateful for any help on this marriage

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 15 Jan 2014 14:14

I can't find a marriage for them either. Perhaps they didn't actually marry. I can't see any other children for them.

Kath. x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2014 14:15

For ref.

Births Jun 1913 King Lily Corns Aston 6d 1045

1911

Name: Emma King
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Park Mills Place Wharton Street Nechells Birmingham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: No
Registration District: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration District: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 18258
Household Members:
Name Age
John King 35 b. Birmingham
Emma King 34 b. Birmingham


Have you checked to see if Emma was married before? Do you have Lily's birth certificate please?


Moira

Moira Report 15 Jan 2014 14:16

Lily was an only child. sorry should have said that

Moira

Moira Report 15 Jan 2014 14:17

I am just looking to see if I can find another marriage for Emma, yes I have Lily's birth cert.

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jan 2014 14:23


Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name:Emma Corns

Gender:Female

Birth Year:abt 1877

Marriage Date:25 Dec 1898

Marriage Age:21

Marriage Place:Bordesley, St Andrew, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Alfred Buffery

Spouse Gender:Male

Spouse Marriage Age:21

Father:Isaac Corns <<Gun maker

Spouse's Father:Enock Buffery

Reference Number:DRO 63

Archive Roll:688

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jan 2014 14:27

1911 census


Person: BUFFERY, Emma Address: 7 Court 2 Arthur St Small Heath Birmingham

BUFFERY, Alfred Head Married M 33 1878 Labourer Paviours Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
BUFFERY, Emma Wife Married12 years F 33 1878 Nut And Bolt Maker Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
BUFFERY, William Alfred Son M 11 1900 Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
BUFFERY, Glayds Emma Daughter F 7 1904 Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
BUFFERY, Florence Matilda Daughter F 2 1909 Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
BUFFERY, Lenard Charles Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham Warwicks VIEW
WARDLE, Emma Boarder Married F 21 1890 Painter Bucket Aston Warwicks VIEW
WARDLE, Lillian Boarder F 2 1909 Birmingham Warwicks

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jan 2014 14:28

Have you looked for EMMA in 1901?

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jan 2014 14:29

This is the one who married BUFFERY

1891 census

Person: CORNS, Emma Address: 81, Cardigan Street, Aston, Birmingham

CORNS, Isaac Head Married M 49 1842 Sword Maker
Prescot, Lancashire VIEW
CORNS, Martha Wife Married F 30 1861
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Caroline Daughter Single F 22 1869 Umbrella Maker
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Charles Son Single M 19 1872 Sword Maker
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Margaret Daughter Single F 15 1876 Umbrella Maker
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Emma Daughter Single F 12 1879 Umbrella Maker
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Isaac Son M 11 1880
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
CORNS, Martha Daughter F 8 1883
Birmingham, Warwickshire

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jan 2014 14:31

I saw the Buffery couple on the 1911 but there is only 1 Emma Corns born in Warwickshire at the time around 1877

Wonder if she and King lived together and Alfred just entered her on the census?

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jan 2014 14:34

Good point....especially as the King birth was AFTER 1911.

Perhaps Emma was commuting!

On the other hand...................

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
BUFFERY Horace J Corns Aston 6d 821

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Buffery Leslie R Corns Aston 6d 744

Or did she simply go back to her husband?

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jan 2014 14:36

Perhaps she was STILL commuting!



Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912

Name:Florence Matilda Buffery

Baptism Date:12 Dec 1909

Baptism Place:Bordesley, St Andrew, Warwickshire, England

Father:Alfred Buffery

Mother:Emma Buffery

Reference Number:DRO 63

Archive Roll:683




Deaths Sep 1949 (>99%)

Buffery Emma 71 Birmingham 9c 333

Margee

Margee Report 15 Jan 2014 14:36

But Emma Buffery had an 8 month old son on the 1911 census. Surely she wasn't living with another man?

Moira

Moira Report 15 Jan 2014 14:37

I wondered if they never married because she said when she (lily) was about 7 her mother died and the family wanted to take her off her father, so John got a barge to bring them to Sheffield from Birmingham. Lily never saw any of her extended family after that. wish we had got deeper into it at the time, Lily was a very secretive person
so didn't give a lot away

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jan 2014 14:43

Margee

I wish I had your faith in human nature........LOL!

Moira

.............you need to look for the 'death' of Lily's mother..............

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2014 15:03

There is another Emma in the same area around the same time.

Name: Walter Morris
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1866
Marriage Date: 25 Nov 1899
Marriage Age: 33
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Matthias, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Emma Corns
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 23
Father: William Morris
Spouse's Father: Joseph Hedley Corns
Reference Number: DRO 8
Archive Roll: 620



???

1881 - In here with Emma, aged 44 years and William aged 8 years

Name: Emma Corns
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Aston Union Workhouse" Gravelly Hill Erdington
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration District: Aston
Sub-registration District: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: Aston Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3049
Folio: 93
Page Number: 8


1901

Name: Emma Corns
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Morris 34
Emma Morris 36
Walter Morris 7 Months
Emma Corns 64

Moira

Moira Report 15 Jan 2014 15:06

I have an address of 2 Brough Terrace Cook Street Birmingham, is there anyone who could look on the electoral roll to see if they are living there in1920 please

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2014 15:26

William Charles Shakespear
2 Brough Terrace in 1920

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2014 15:34

1922 - Matthew and Agnes Doyle

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2014 15:38

Name: Emma King
Year: 1920
Ward or Division/Constituency: Erdington
Street Address: 6 Brough terract
Residence Place: Birmingham


Also there John King