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Wilson Birmingham to Canada

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wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Jan 2014 16:26

William Wilson & Minnie Davis married in 1901, both aged 19.
Daughter Annie born the same year.
The family emigrated to Canada sometime after the 1911 census, but can´t track them on either FMP or Familysearch.
Can anyone help please?.

Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 16:35

Is this the family?



Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912

Name:Annie May Wilson

Baptism Date:19 May 1901

Baptism Place:Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England

Father:William Wilson <<Jeweller

Mother:Minnie Wilson

Reference Number:DRO 9

Archive Roll:605



1911 England Census

Name:William Wilson

Age in 1911:28

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Dstor, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish:Birmingham

County/Island:Warwickshire

Street Address:88 Buckingham St Birm

Marital status:Married

Occupation:Jeweller

Registration District:Birmingham

Registration District Number:384

Sub-registration District:St George

ED, institution, or vessel:15

Piece:18075


Age

William Wilson 28
Minnie Wilson 28
Annie Wilson 10




Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jan 2014 16:37

how sad married 10 years 7 children born but only 1 still living

1911 England Census about Minnie Wilson
Name: Minnie Wilson
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Aston Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 88 Buckingham St Birm
Marital status: Married
Registration District: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration District: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 18075
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 28
Minnie Wilson 28
Annie Wilson 10
View Image

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 18075

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Jan 2014 16:41

Yes. Got quite a shock when I saw how many children they had lost.
No wonder they wanted to start a new life.
They were very young when they married too.

Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 17:11

How do you know that they went to Canada?

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Jan 2014 17:14

Ancestry has records of a William, Minnie & Annie Wilson going to Canada, but I can´t view the info because I don´t have worldwide membership.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jan 2014 17:30

i have Ancestry but not picking that up ???

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jan 2014 17:38

What info did you enter when you searched for them, wisechild?
I'm not seeing them, though there are lots of William Wilsons, Annie Wilsons, and Minnie Wilsons.

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 25 Jan 2014 17:43

I have been looking as well. There are lots of Annie's, William's an d Minnie Wilsons going out, but I haven't been able to find them as a family

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jan 2014 17:47

Perhaps they didn't go.

I know it's a common name, but there's this:

Deaths Dec 1920 (>99%)
WILSON Minnie 37 Birmingham 6d 281

Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 17:50

Looks like they were in the UK




Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912


Name:Irene Wilson

Baptism Date:23 Jun 1912 <<<Birth date: June 2nd 1912

Baptism Place:
Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England

Father:
William Wilson <<Jeweller

Mother:
Minnie Wilson

Reference Number:DRO 9

Archive Roll:606



And...........



Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937

Name:Irene Wilson

Gender:Female

Birth Year:abt 1912

Marriage Date:29 Jul 1933

Marriage Age:21

Marriage Place:Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Maurice Alfred Markham

Spouse Gender:Male

Spouse Marriage Age:23

Father:William Wilson <<Jeweller

Spouse's Father:Harry Markham

Reference Number:DRO 9

Archive Roll:610


Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 18:04



Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912

Name:Maurice Alfred Markham

Birth Date:4 May 1910

Baptism Date:16 May 1910

Baptism Place:Birmingham, St Nicolas, Warwickshire, England

Father:Harry Markham

Mother:Louisa Markham

Reference Number:DRO 6

Archive Roll:623





England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Maurice Alfred Markham

Birth Date:4 May 1910

Date of Registration:Apr 2002

Age at Death:91

Registration District:Walsall

Inferred County:Staffordshire

Register Number:B64A

District and Subdistrict:0751B

Entry Number:263



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Irene Markham

Birth Date2 Jun 1912

Date of Registration:Oct 2000

Age at Death:88

Registration District:Sandwell

Inferred County:West Midlands

Register Number:A65

District and Subdistrict:0701A

Entry Number:111


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jan 2014 18:20

Not that it helps answer wisechild's query, but here are William and Minnie, newly married in 1901. Minnie was pregnant when they married. Just kids - if only they'd known all the heartache to come:


1901 England Census about William Wilson
Name: William Wilson
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Swivel jeweller

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Crutchley 26
Louisa Crutchley 26
Florence M Crutchley 1
William Wilson 18
Minnie Wilson 18


Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
DAVIS Minnie Birmingham 6d 76
WILSON William Birmingham 6d 76

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
Wilson Annie May Birmingham 6d 141

Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 19:09

Maybe her death



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Minnie Wilson

Birth Date:abt 1883

Date of Registration:Dec 1920

Age at Death:37

Registration District:Birmingham

Inferred County:Warwickshire

Volume:6d

Page:281



Might be worth buying the death certificate

Gins

Gins Report 25 Jan 2014 19:58

"Ancestry has records of a William, Minnie & Annie Wilson going to Canada, but I can´t view"

Could you post the details that you can access, please?

We can check it out for you

wisechild

wisechild Report 26 Jan 2014 07:11

Think it was an Ancestry"hint" which I know are often unreliable, if not complete nonsense.
Minnie´s older brother emigrated to Canada with his wife & daughter in 1912.
He joined the expeditionary force in 1917 & was killed in France in 1918.
His widow & daughter came back to England briefly in 1920 & when she returned to Canada to re marry, a number of family members went too. Some returned to England & some stayed in Canada.
As Minnie was very close to them all, it seemed reasonable to suppose they had gone as well.
Unfortunately, Minnie had a cousin, also called Minnie Davis who was within a couple of years of the same age as "my" Minnie, although I know I´m following the right one because she & William are living with her sister Louisa Crutchley on the 1901 census, as newly weds, Also, her marriage cert gives her father as Frederick Davis, which is correct.

Gins

Gins Report 26 Jan 2014 12:08

Looks like they didn't go to Canada, as suspected



Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955


Name:William & Minnie Wilson

Year:1920

Ward or Division/Constituency:West Birmingham

Street Address:
88 BUCKINGHAM STREET

Residence Place:Birmingham




Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955


Name:William Wilson

Year:1925

Ward or Division/Constituency:West Birmingham

Street Address:88 BUCKINGHAM STREET

Residence Place:Birmingham





Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955

Name:William Wilson

Year:1927

Ward or Division/Constituency:West Birmingham

Street Address:88 BUCKINGHAM STREET

Residence Place:Birmingham

Living at the same address: Walter Alders


That 1920 death for Minnie Wilson is the correct one

Gins

Gins Report 26 Jan 2014 12:15

Wonder if William re-married a relative of Minnie'



Marriages Dec 1930


Davis Lily Wilson Birmingham S. 6d 38
Wilson William Davis Birmingham S. 6d 38


Edit: Just found the above marriage on the parish records. It has the father down as Ernest and William' father was John, so not the same person



I cant see him on the ER after 1927 so was wondering about this death



Deaths Mar 1930
Wilson William 47 Birmingham N. 6d 522

wisechild

wisechild Report 27 Jan 2014 07:09

Thanks for all your hard work Gins & everyone else .
Got quite excited when I saw the marriage of Lily because Minnie had a niece called Lily. Unfortunately her father was William.
Certainly appears that they didn´t go to Canada as I had thought.
Just goes to show you should never second guess, or take someone else´s word as evidence.