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Evan Thomas Hughes & Martha Higgins (Wilson)

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Bryn

Bryn Report 26 Jan 2014 14:09

I have been trying to find the marriage of my Great Grand parents and seem to have hit a brick wall.

Evan Thomas Hughes born 20/06/1877, died 28/12/1927 in Whitby married Martha Higgins (christened Wilson on the birth certificate) born 15/09/1880, died 21/03/1945. DOM abt 1909.

I found a marriage certificate for a Evan Thomas Hughes and Martha Higgins on 26/11/1914. Unfortunately this Martha is too young and her parents names are incorrect.

This was Evan Thomas Hughes 2nd marriage, he previously wed Alice Ann Rhodes born 1881 abt 1900 in Holywell, Flintshire. They had 2 sons, Evan Hubert 1903 - 1966 and Edward born 1901. I am not aware of what happened to Alice Rhodes.

Evan had a further 6 daughters with Martha Higgins. I also believe Martha may have had a son out of wedlock as I have traced a Alfred Higgins Wilson born to a Martha Wilson on 27/10/1907 and he was on the 1911 census listed as the grandson of Henry Higgins who I believe was the step father of Martha.

Hopefully this all makes sense as it took quite a bit of investigation to get this far.

As I stated above I can only find one marriage between an Evan Thomas Hughes and a Martha Higgins so wonder if anyone has any other ideas. It did cross my mind that they may not have married.

Thanks Bryn

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Jan 2014 14:14

It may be he separated from his first wife so wasnt free to remarry ' Divorce was very costly to get in those days and only had specific reasons for a divorce to be granted most usual was adultery that had to be admitted .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Jan 2014 14:18

is this them on the 1911 census
?
1911 census transcription details for: 2 Fern Cottages Napier St Wrexham

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN34062 RG78PN1965 RD621 SD3 ED35 SN258
Reg. District: Wrexham
Sub District: Wrexham
Parish: Wrexham Regis
Enum. District: 35
Address: 2 Fern Cottages Napier St Wrexham
County: Denbighshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HUGHES, Evan Head Married M 35 1876 Gardener Domestic Flint Northop
HUGHES, Martha Wife Married
1 years F 31 1880 Flint Bangor
HUGHES, Hugh Son M 9 1902 At School Chester Malpas
HUGHES, Lilly Daughter F 0 (6 MONTH) 1911 Denbigh Wrexham

wonder who her mum is listed as

Name: Lily Hughes
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1910
Registration District: Wrexham
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 237

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:18

Suggest you try to find out what happened to Alice..........that is probably the 'key'


Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:19

Not sure what you mean by this........

(christened Wilson on the birth certificate)

Baptism and birth registration are separate events

Under what surname was Martha's birth registered?

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:21

Have you looked for/found the man's first marriage?

You say it was 'about' 1900.....................freebmd should give you accurate info

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:30

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Rhodes Alice Ann Holywell 11b 280

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Hughes Evan Thomas Holywell 11b 289*

*have submitted correction to freebmd

Astra

Astra Report 26 Jan 2014 14:32

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2508
Folio: 83
Page: 11
Reg. District: Clun
Sub District: Clun
Parish: Clunbury
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Clunbury St Swithins
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ash Beds, Clunbury, Twitchen & Clunton Coppice & C
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RHODES, Noah Head Married M 44 1857 Gamekeeper
Dawley, Shropshire
RHODES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1857
Dawley, Shropshire
RHODES, Janet Daughter Single F 13 1888
Dean Parish, Lancashire
RHODES, Lucy Daughter Single F 12 1889
Dean Parish, Lancashire
HUGHES, Alice R Daughter Married F 20 1881
Staveley, Derbyshire
HUGHES, Evan Son-In-Law Married M 24 1877 Gardener
N Mole, Flintshire, Wales
HUGHES, Edward Son M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Malpas Parish, Cheshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jan 2014 14:42

Detail of the 1900 marriage:

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Grooms Last Name: Hughes
Grooms First Name: Evan Thomas
Grooms Fathers First Name: William
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Hughes
Grooms Parish: Northop
Grooms Age: 24

Brides Last Name: Rhodes
Brides First Name: Alice Ann
Brides Fathers First Name: Noah
Brides Fathers Last Name: Rhodes
Brides Parish: Northop
Brides Age: 22

County: Flintshire
Place / Parish: Connah's Quay
Marriage Year: 1900
Marriage Month: Mar
Marriage Day: 18

Page: 92
Record source: Flint marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

ADDED:
Evan Thomas was a gardener, his father a labourer.

Alice Ann's father a gamekeeper.

Neither previously married.

Witnesses: Joseph Davies and Elizabeth Ann Williams.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Jan 2014 14:43

is this Evan Hubert?
Name: Evan Hubert Hughes
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1903
Registration District: Bridgenorth
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 592

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Jan 2014 14:50

Edward ??

Name: Edward Hughes
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
Registration District: Chester
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 369

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jan 2014 14:52

Bryn - what were the father details for the Evan Thomas on the 1914 marriage certificate and what marital status did it give for Evan Thomas?

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:54

1911 census


Person: WILSON, Alfred Higgins Address: Cuddington Malpas

HIGGINS, Henry Head Married M 52 1859 Joiner Flint Hamner VIEW
HIGGINS, Ann Wife Married30 years F 50 1861 Denbighshire Ruabon VIEW
HIGGINS, Fredrick Son Single M 24 1887 Joiner Cheshire Malpas VIEW
HIGGINS, Albert Son Single M 20 1891 Joiner Cheshire Malpas VIEW
HIGGINS, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1897 Cheshire Malpas VIEW
HIGGINS, Arthur Son M 12 1899 School Cheshire Malpas VIEW
HIGGINS, Dora Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School Cheshire Malpas VIEW
WILSON, Alfred Higgins Grandson M 3 1908

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 14:56

If Henry was Martha's stepfather, her name at birth wasn't HIGGINS.............

Is that what you were trying to convey?

Astra

Astra Report 26 Jan 2014 14:58

??

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

Forenames: Lily
Surname: Hughes
Baptism Year: 1911
Baptism Month: Apr
Baptism Day: 09
Place: Wrexham
County: Denbighshire
Birth Year: -
Birth Month: -
Birth Day: -
Fathers Forenames: Evan
Mothers Forenames: Martha
Page: 140
Record source: Denbigh baptisms - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 15:00

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)

HIGGINS Henry Wrexham 11b 461
WILSON Ann Wrexham 11b 461


North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILSON Martha Holt Wrexham County Borough (Wrexham) HOLT/15/16

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 15:03

1901 census

Person: HIGGINS, Arthur Address: Cuddington, Cuddington (Cheshire), Rural Parish

HIGGINS, Henry Head Married M 42 1859 Carpenter
Bronington, Flintshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Ann Wife Married F 40 1861
Ruabon, Denbighshire VIEW
HIGGINS, David H Son Single M 18 1883 Weelright
Malpas, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Fredrick Son Single M 14 1887 Agricultural Labourer
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Albert Son Single M 10 1891 Scholar
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Clara Daughter Single F 7 1894 Scholar
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Eleizebeth Daughter Single F 4 1897
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Arthur Son Single M 2 1899
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Edwin W Son Single M 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Cuddington, Cheshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 15:04

1891 census

Person: HIGGINS, David H Address: Cottage, Cuddington Heath, Cuddington, Cuddington Heath

HIGGINS, Henry Head Married M 33 1858 Wheelwright
Bronington, Flintshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Ann Wife Married F 30 1861
Ruabon, Denbighshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Martha Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Bangor-Ys-Coed, Flintshire VIEW
HIGGINS, David H Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Mary Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Frederick Son M 4 1887
Cuddington, Cheshire VIEW
HIGGINS, Albert Son M 0 (1M) 1891
Cuddington, Cheshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 26 Jan 2014 15:06

You refer to 6 daughters, but give no clue about names/birth years/location

Potty

Potty Report 26 Jan 2014 15:11

This Lily is attached to a tree that has Evan Hughes married to a Martha Higgins - married one year; one child


1911 Wales Census
Lilly Hughes
Age in 1911:6/12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1910
Relation to Head:Daughter
Birth Place:Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish:Wrexham Regis
Street Address:2 Fern Cottage Napier St Wrexham

Evan Hughes 35
Martha Hughes 31
Hugh Hughes 7
Lilly Hughes 6/12