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One of my relations, Emma Ellen Southorn, married a Cyril Richards who died in 1941. She then married a Whitting and lived in Streatham, Balham, London.
I have not been able to find out about this marriage except that she was widowed again about 1964. If anyone can help me re her second husband, Whitting, I will be most thankful.
Bessie

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921


Name:Emma Ellen Southorn

Estimated birth year:abt 1895

Age:25

Spouse Name:Cyril George Richards

Spouse Age:26

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:25 Aug 1920

Parish:Lower Streatham St Andrew

Borough:Lambeth

Father Name:Richard Southorn

Spouse Father:Frederick James Richards

Register Type:Parish Register

Is this her, before Cyril' death



London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Emma Ellen Whitting




Name:
Emma Ellen Whitting

Year:
1939

County or Borough:
Wandsworth

Ward or Division/Constituency:
Streatham

Street address:
37 Parklandr Road



Are you sure about the death date for her first husband




Marriages Jun 1930 (>99%)


Richards Ellen Whiyting Wandsworth 1d 1491

Whitting Edward J Richards Wandsworth 1d 1491

Is this her death ?

Deaths Sep 1967
WHITING EMMA E 58 GREENWICH 5B 348

The cert should say she is wife or widow of and give her husbands name

Note the spelling of her surname :-)

Edit wrong lady !

Or this?



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007


Name:Emma E Whiting

Birth Date:abt 1893

Date of Registration:Dec 1937

Age at Death:44

Registration district:Barnet

Inferred County:Middlesex

Volume:3a

Page:645

Cyril looks to have died in the 1920,s

Deaths Jun 1925
Richards Cyril G 30 Wandsworth 1d 483

Wandsworth reg district covered Streatham

1967 Death, has middle name Ethel, on below...

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

That's the one Shirley



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Cyril George Richards




Name:
Cyril George Richards

Probate Date:
14 May 1925

Death Date:
20 Apr 1925

Death Place:
Surrey, England <<Heathdene Rd, Streatham

Registry:London, England

To: Emma Ellen (widow) £216 16s

This could be her hubby
Deaths Dec 1945
Whitting Edward J 52 Battersea 1d 294

It is !
Name: Edward John Whitting
Probate Date: 26 Apr 1946
Death Date: 22 Dec 1945
Death Place: London, England
Registry: Lewes

Of 37 Parklands road. Streatham died at St James Hospital Balham admin Lewis 26th April to Emma Ellen Whitting. Widow and Hilda Victoria Agnes. Whitting spinster effects £ 2714.17.4d


EDIT Looks like Hilda is his sister from the census,s

Living with a Jessie Gertrude Whitting

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Hilda Victoria Agnes Whitting
Name: Hilda Victoria Agnes Whitting
Year: 1936
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Balham and Tooting and Central
Street address: 3 Ritherdon Road

Name: Hilda V Whitting
Year: 1946
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Balham and Tooting and Central
Street address: 16 Dalebury road

Still at 37 Parklands Road in 1958 but calling herself Ellen E

Name: Ellen E Whitting
Year: 1958
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Streatham


And in 1962
Name: Ellen E Whitting
Year: 1962
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Streatham
Street address: 37 Parklands Road
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2835

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Births Jun 1897 (>99%)

Whitting Hilda Victoria A Axbridge 5c 466


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1901 Census


1901 England Census about H V A Whitting
Name: H V A Whitting
[Hilda Victoria A. Whitting Whitting]
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Ben H Whitting
Mother: Elizabeth Whitting
Birth Place: Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Weston Super Mare
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

Piece: 2324
Folio: 32
Page Number: 56
Household schedule number: 350

Ben H Whitting 47 b.ca 1854, Chapel Allerton, Somerset, Saddler
Elizabeth Whitting 44 b.ca 1857, Compton Bishop, Somerset, Lodging House Keeper
Jessie G Whitting 14 b.ca 1887, Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset
Edward T Whitting 8 b.ca 1893, Weston-Super-Mare <<<< it is Edward J on the image
Percy A Whitting 3 bca 1898, Weston-Super-Mare
H V A Whitting 3
Agnes Hares 40 Sister-in-Law, Assistant in Lodging House
John T Hares 75 Brother-in-Law, Cabinet Maker <<<<<< age is actually 35

Address:- 3 Victoria Blds

1911 Census

Name: E John Whitting
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Weston Super Mare, Somerset
Civil Parish: Weston super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: 32 Regent Street, Weston-Super-Mare
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Postal Official Clerk
Registration district: Axbridge
Registration District Number: 314
Sub-registration district: Weston Super Mark
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 14595

Elizabeth Whitting 57 Widow, Restaurant Keeper
Jessie G Whitting 24 Bookkeeper for Tailor
E John Whitting 18 Postal Official
Percy A Whitting 13 Scholar
Hilda V A Whitting 13 Scholar
Agnes Hares 40 no occupation
John T Hares 32 Dealer
Clara Fear 50 Servant
Jenneette Farthing 45 Visitor, Domestic <<<<< should be Jennette





British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Edward John Whitting

Name: Edward John Whitting
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age at enlistment: 22
Residence: 5 Marmion Road, Bathersea Ser
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 36119
Regiment Name: Royal Engineers
Number of Images: 22

Not finding a death for Emma Whitting

Thanks for the help.
Her first husband was supposed to have been killed in a Motorbike accident.
I was also told that Cyril Richards was in the Army and decorated for bravery???????
Bessie

?? He was a bank clerk who served on the Pembroke.


Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription
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First Name Cyril George
Last Name Richards
Year Of Birth 1894
Date Of Birth 01 May 1894
Year 1899-1919
Service Number F1964
Town Of Birth Milmay Park
County Of Birth London
Country Of Birth England
Archive Reference ADM 188/563/1964
Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Service Records
Collections from Great Britain



Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription

First Name Cyril George
Last Name Richards
Year Of Birth 1894
Date Of Birth 01 May 1894
Year 1899-1919
Service Number F35107
Town Of Birth Islington
County Of Birth London
Country Of Birth England
Archive Reference ADM 188/627/35107

A Bank cashier serving on the President.



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
EMILY ANN ALLPRESS HEAD WIDOW Female 53 1858 PRIVATE MEANS ST PANCRAS LONDON
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CATHERINE WENRIELLA TURNER SISTER RELATIVE SINGLE Female 55 1856 PRIVATE MEANS ST PANCRAS LONDON
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CYRIL GEORGE RICHARDS NEPHEW SINGLE Male 16 1895 STUDENT ISLINGTON LONDON

First Name CYRIL GEORGE
Last Name RICHARDS
Relationship NEPHEW
Condition SINGLE
Gender Male
Age 16
Year Of Birth 1895
Occupation STUDENT
Address 13 ARRAGON GARDENS STREATHAM S W
Parish WANDSWORTH BOROUGH
County London
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place ISLINGTON LONDON
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 2339
Census Reference RG14PN2339 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED54 SN136
Registration District WANDSWORTH
Registration District Number 26
Sub District STREATHAM


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
GEORGE A GOODMAN HEAD MARRIED Male 77 1824 RETIRED MILLINER ST PANCRAS, LONDON
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GEORGINA GOODMAN WIFE MARRIED Female 67 1834 - ST PANCRAS, LONDON
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CATHERINE H TURNER DAUGHTER MARRIED Female 45 1856 HOUSE KEEPER ST PANCRAS, LONDON
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EMILY ANN ALLPRESS BOARDER WIDOW Female 43 1858 - ST PANCRAS, LONDON
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ELLEN RICHARDS DAUGHTER MARRIED Female 34 1867 CLERK COMMERCIAL ST PANCRAS, LONDON
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EMILY TURNER GRAND DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 21 1880 - SHOREDITCH, LONDON
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GEORGE TURNER GRAND SON SINGLE Male 22 1879 ELECTRO TYPER DE BEAUVIOR TN, LONDON
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CYRIL RICHARDS GRAND SON SINGLE Male 7 1894 - ISLINGTON, LONDON

First Name CYRIL
Last Name RICHARDS
Relationship GRAND SON
Condition SINGLE
Gender Male
Age 7
Year Of Birth 1894
Occupation -
Birth Town ISLINGTON
Birth County LONDON
Birth Place -
Street MILDMAY GROVE
Town -
Parish ISLINGTON
City -
Country ENGLAND
County London
Vessel Name -
Municipal Ward MILDMAY
Registration District ISLINGTON

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Cyril George Richards
Name: Cyril George Richards of 92 Mildmay Grove
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 May 1894
Father's Name: Frederick James Richards, insurance agent
Mother's name: Ellen Goodman Richards
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Cyril George Richards
Name: Cyril George Richards, bank cashier
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Emma Ellen Southorn
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Aug 1920
Parish: Lower Streatham St Andrew
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Frederick James Richards, deceased estate agent
Spouse Father: Richard Southorn
Register Type: Parish Register



London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Cyril George Richards
Name: Cyril George Richards
Age: 14
Birth Date: 1 May 1894
School: Strand School
Address: ELM PARK
Borough: Lambeth
Admission Date: 18 Jan 1909
Parent or Guardian: Mrs C Allpress
Notes: Strand School opened as a county secondary school in 1913
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/STR/AD/002

Father was an Assistant boro'? Clerk and his last school had been Southdowne College, Eastbourne (secondary)

you would only know how he died by buying his death certificate

Shirley gave you the reference with the information needed to buy it from GRO


Deaths Jun 1925
Richards Cyril G 30 Wandsworth 1d 483


You could look to see if you could find a reference in a newspaper of the time, and place.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ellen Turner Goodman
Name: Ellen Turner Goodman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Frederick James Richards, insurance agent
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Mar 1893
Parish: Mildmay Grove St Jude
Borough: Islington
Father Name: George Arthur Goodman
Spouse Father: Frederick James Richards, pastry cook
Register Type: Parish Register