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Hi there folks,

I have never been stuck this close to grandparents, doing this for a friend.

Lionel Jack Dixon was born in 1930 Grimsby. Parents were John William (journey man) and Sylvia B Dixon. married in 1930. I have no way of finding out where John was born or his date of birth, as we don't have the marriage certificate. There are so many Dixons in Grimsby, I don't quite know where to start. If anyone can help, that would be great.
thanks
:-D

Why do you not get the marriage certificate?

If they are grandparents, when and where did John die?

hi there,

family rift I think, hence we don't even know when he died or where. I could order the cert, but money is an issue, thanks

Name: Lionel J Dixon
Mother's Maiden Surname: Drury
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1930
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 886

HI
thank you Milly, that is his son Lionel, I am just completely stuck on his dad and where he came from, he is listed as a journeyman on his birth certificiate, and Dixon seems to be popular in Grimsby Lincolnshire at the time, thanks

Marriages Mar 1930

Dixon John W - Drury - Grimsby 7a 996
Drury Sylvia B - Dixon- Grimsby 7a 996

Possibility for death of Sylvia:
Sylvia Beatrice Dixon
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1912
Date of Registration: May 2005
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: North east Lincolnshire
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Register Number: A62C
District and Subdistrict: 548/1A
Entry Number: 56

and her birth;
Births Jun 1912
Drury Beatrice S Vear Grimsby 7a 1260

Looks like you will need the marriage cert for John's age and father's name and occupation

Thank you for your help everyone, think the cert is maybe the only way to go, seems the female side is a lot easier on this one, and it's usually the hardest due to change of names, but alas no. Oops, thanks :-D

the only likely looking candidate seems to be this one

Name: John William B Dixon
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1906
Date of Registration: Jun 1983
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 0537

Births Mar 1906
Dixon John William B Grimsby 7a 610

since that is the only JWD death in Grimsby with about the right age

and that is the birth to match (and the only JWD birth in Grimsby)

that's just a prediction though, unfortunately not worth following back without the marriage certificate!

If it is that birth that JoonieCloonie posted, then the B is Bray, which could give clues as to his ancestry - but marriage certificate needed.

1911 England Census
John William Bray Dixon Age in 1911: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male
Birth Place: Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Great Grimsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England
Street address: 45 Haven Avenue Gt Grimsby Lincs
Occupation: School
Registration district: Grimsby Registration District Number: 422
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 19950
John William Dixon 28 Market Stainton postman
Lily Ann Dixon 31
John William Bray Dixon 5
Ivis Lily Dixon 3
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 19950.

Added:
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Marriages Jun 1905
BRAY Lily Ann Louth 7a 1577
DIXON John William Louth 7a 1577

Brilliant thank you, will keep this information should I need it, thank you folks :-D

From Church Records

Old Clee Church Grimsby 13/01/1930

John William Dixon age 26 a plumber
father Arthur James a chef

Sylvia Beatrice Drury age 17

father a cooper.

If you would like their address's and the witness's just let me know

Hi Sheila,

I would very much love any information you have please, that would be fantastic, thank you :-)

Hi again

John William Dixon lived at 485 Grimsby Road Cleethorpes

Sylvia Beatrice Drury lived at 183 Columbia Road Grimsby

Wits Albert Victor Drury and Beatrice Alice Drury
I have their marriage if you need it.

unfortunately the 1911 shows my guess, John William Bray Dixon as son of John Willam Dixon, a postman

John William Dixon 28
Lily Ann Dixon 31
John William Bray Dixon 5
Ivis Lily Dixon 3
45 Haven Avenue Gt Grimsby Lincs

so Sheila's excellent information rules him out :-)

but I don't see any match for our JWD and his father in 1911 ...

there is no Arthur James Dixon marriage in Lincolnshire ever

and the ones there are in the 1911 don't have a son named John William

there may be things not adding up

I have found one possibility, that Arthur James could have been born and married in Belfast, I have found one as a James dixon and John William in the family, right age, just a thought :-)

nuttybongo maybe you would post the actual details and maybe links? that is a little vague for anyone to know what it's about ... found births/baptisms, found them in a census, in a family tree ... ?


... okay 1911 census in Chester le Street

James Dixon 41 born Belfast, coal miner, deputy overman below ground
Margaret Jane Dixon 38 born Durham
Jessie Skeen Dixon 17 stepdaughter
John William Dixon 8 son
Hamilton Dixon 7
James Dixon 4
Robert Hall Dixon 3
Thomas E Dixon 10/12
William Flowers 80

Marriages Jun 1898
Dixon James Chester Le Street 10a 834
Skeen Margaret Jane Chester le S. 10a 834

looks a little remote :-)

wondering whether we have one of the classic scenarios here

Dixon was JW's mother's name and he was registered in that name
Arthur James was his father or his stepfather but was not a Dixon

or

Dixon was JW's father's surname
but his parents were not married and his birth was registered in his mother's surname
and he later adopted his father's surname

or

JW was registered in his mother's (or father's) surname
but his mother later married or partnered with a Mr Dixon
and he adopted his stepfather's surname


for instance, I considered this possible marriage that could have given JW Dixon a stepfather Arthur J

Marriages Jun 1911
Atkin Susan A Horncastle 7a 1470
Curtis Michael L Horncastle 7a 1470
? Dixon Ada Horncastle 7a 1470
? Marshall Arthur J Horncastle 7a 1470

but for that one, Dixon married Curtis (births afterward in Horncastle)

and there isn't another Dixon + Arthur J marriage in the Lincolnshire vicinity 1900-1920

but then ... John William could have been born anywhere ...