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Hannah Monks

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Beverley

Beverley Report 16 Aug 2014 18:28

Hi am trying to find out about Hannah Monks of Bolton, Lancs, born about 1886.
married Frederick Smith in about 1908. Remarried a Robinson.
I know she was in Lupton St in 1911 with Frederick and 3 of the children.
Any help, especially about her parents would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Bev Hennefer

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 18:34

Is this her? Not in Lupton St though.

1911 England Census
Name: Hannah Smith
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 47 Mason St Bolton Lancashire
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: South West Bolton

Frederick Smith 27
Hannah Smith 25
Frederick Smith Nine Months
Hannah Smith 2
Elizabeth Smith 4
John Elliott 14

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 18:35

You might need her marriage cert, as there are 2 Hannah Monks born Bolton about the same time:

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
HOLLAND Emily Bolton 8c 497
Monks Hannah Bolton 8c 497
Sharp William Bolton 8c 497
SMITH Frederick Bolton 8c 497

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 18:39

This might be her as the address is 8 Lupton St - where did you get the address from?

1901 England Census

Name: Hannah Monks
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Margaret A Monks
Birth Place: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bolton le Moors Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3629
Folio: 13
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 129

Margaret A Monks 22
John Monks 18
Peter Monks 17
Hannah Monks 15

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 18:43

Looks like the same family 1891


1891 England Census

Name: Hannah Monks
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Monks
Mother's name: Eve Monks
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire


Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3056
Folio: 109
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
James Monks 38
Eve Monks 38
Maggie Monks 13
John Monks 10
Peter Monks 7
Hannah Monks 5

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Aug 2014 18:45

This doesn't make sense! They're all listed as children of Margaret who's only 22!

1901 England Census
about Hannah Monks Name: Hannah Monks
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Margaret A Monks
Birth Place: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bolton le Moors Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3629
Folio: 13
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret A Monks 22
John Monks 18
Peter Monks 17
Hannah Monks 15



brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 18:46

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Lever Alice Bolton 8c 323
Mayoh Eve Bolton 8c 323
MONKS James Bolton 8c 323
WARR John Bolton 8c 323

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Aug 2014 18:51

Possibly Eva & James' deaths?

Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
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Monks Eva 42 Bolton 8c 251

Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Monks James 44 Bolton 8c 221

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Aug 2014 19:52

Margaret is presumably sister Maggie as in 1891, just an error I suppose!

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Aug 2014 20:14

I would say that this is definitely the right household in 1901

Margaret A Monks 22 (sister Maggie not mother)
John Monks 18
Peter Monks 17
> Hannah Monks 15


because the next household, which is at the same address, is

Wallace Elliot 35
Daria Elliot 36 (it's Maria not Daria)
> John Elliot 4
Anna Elliot 2


and that John Elliot shows as nephew John Elliott in the 1911 household

Frederick Smith 27
> Hannah Smith 25
Frederick Smith Nine Months
Hannah Smith 2
Elizabeth Smith 4
> John Elliott 14


the connection is to Hannah Monks' mother Eve Mayoh

Marriages Jun 1893
Elliott Wallace Bruce Bolton 8c 433
> Mayoh Maria Bolton 8c 433


1871 census in Bolton

John Mayoh 49
> Eve Mayoh 19
Peter Mayoh 9
> Maria Mayoh 7
Elizabeth H Briercliffe 36
Emelia Berry 30


in the 1881 census someone has corrected Maria Mayoh's name

Name: Maria Marsh
[Maria Mayoh]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Great Bolton

the person who made the correction says
'It says Mayoh and he is Mayoh in 1891 and 1901'
referring to Peter Mayoh who is in the same household
and the username is PhilpottsMayoh so the person seems to be related, and could be reached through Ancestry
... however ... their large 'Many Mayohs' tree doesn't include Maria or Eve/Eva or any Monks


but note also that someone corrected the surname Elliot to Elliott for the 1901 family of Wallace and Maria at Ancestry and they could be contacted as well ... his Nelson Family Tree shows Eve Mayoh but no details of her descendants

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 17 Aug 2014 16:55

Hello Beverley and welcome to the Community boards....






I'll let Beverley know how to find her replies.... :-)

Beverley

Beverley Report 17 Aug 2014 17:45

Hi. Many thanks to all who have posted! I am so grateful for the help. It is the same family. I had tracked down a possibility through the 1901 census, which is where Lupton st came from. I was confused by head of family Margaret but looked at alongside the other records this is obviously the sister Maggie. I have also found a possible match that I can now confirm with Hannah's mother's name as Eve rather than Margaret. I have sent off for the marriage certificate to confirm this.
Many thanks again to all!