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rowley/biddle look up please

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brummie46

brummie46 Report 19 May 2016 18:51

i find that my gr gr gr grandfathers sister Elizabeth 1838 (Shropshire) on 1871 census is back home with her parents John and Mary Rowley along with her son John.e. age 3 but Elizabeth is now under name Biddle same as her son. Cant find to whom she wed but later was a widow. on 1891 census believe her son John.e. is a police constable and age 22 anything after that cant find anything on him. Tried to find what happened to Elizabeth but have found a death in 1901 but died in Kings Norton. Some of the family did move from Shropshire to Kings Norton area in 1880s approx.
If someone could kindly do some findings for me on Elizabeth and John.e. to see what happened to them after 1871 for Elizabeth and 1891 for JOhn. this would be greatly appreciated

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:06

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name ROWLEY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1866
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH ROWLEY married one of these people
JOSEPH BIDDLE, HENRY JOHNSON
District PENKRIDGE
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 578

Marriage certificate would confirm age of Joseph and his occupation and also Father's occupation

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:07

Same marriage with more detail

Staffordshire marriages Transcription

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Rowley
Age Full Age
Marriage year 1866
Marriage date 01 May 1866
Marriage place Brewood, SS Mary & Chad
Denomination Anglican
Residence Chillington
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Rowley
Spouse's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's last name Biddle
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Chillington
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's father's last name Biddle
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D5648/2
Page 155

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:12

possible for Joseph with Father Edward as per Staffs marriage index.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bosemoor, Penkridge, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Biddle Head Married Male 55 1796 Farm Labourer Penkridge, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Biddle Wife Married Female 54 1797 - Staffordshire, England
Edward Biddle Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Joiner Apprentice Penkridge, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Biddle Son - Male 13 1838 - Penkridge, Staffordshire, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2016 19:15

?? John E's birth registration ............

Name: John Edward Biddle
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Stafford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 8


buying that would give the name of his father, and prove if it was or was not Joseph Biddle

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 May 2016 19:17


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1868

BIDDLE John Edward Stafford Newcastle-Under-Lyme ROWLEY STD/27/408

safc

safc Report 19 May 2016 19:17


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Biddle Head Widow Female 40 1841 Dressmaker Newport, Shropshire, England
Transcription
John Biddle Son Single Male 12 1869 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 May 2016 19:18

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866

ROWLEY Elizabeth BIDDLE Joseph Brewood, St Mary Newcastle-Under-Lyme C5/1/31

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2016 19:20

BE CAREFUL ........

This is another John Edward .......

a Public Family Tree on ancestry has a John Edward Biddle, but born in July quarter 1869 in Middlesex, and with parents John Biddle and Sabina Roberts

There is also a John E Biddle born in Glamorgan in ca 1869

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:21

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
County Road, St Mary, Stafford, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Biddle Head - Male 34 1837 - Staffordshire, England Porter in County InfirmaryInfirmary
Edward Biddle Father - Male 77 1794 - Staffordshire, England Former Ag Lab
Edward Biddle Brother - Male 41 1830 - Staffordshire, England Former Ag Lab

All born Boscomoor, Penkridge. Joseph said to be married

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 May 2016 19:25

just for my ref

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mount Pleasant, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


John Ed Biddle Head Single Male 22 1869 Police Constable Stafford, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Biddle Mother Widow Female 50 1841 - Newport, Shropshire, England Transcription

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:26

Elizabeth also shown as Married

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Rowley Head - Male 67 1804 - Staffordshire, England
Mary Rowley Wife - Female 68 1803 - Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Biddle Daughter - Female 34 1837 - Shropshire, England
John E Biddle Grandson - Male 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England

safc

safc Report 19 May 2016 19:26


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mount Pleasant, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Ed Biddle Head Single Male 22 1869 Police Constable Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Biddle Mother Widow Female 50 1841 - Newport, Shropshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:28

? Joseph death?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name BIDDLE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1838
Age 35
Death quarter 2
Death year 1873
District NEWPORT (SHROPSHIRE)
County Shropshire
Volume 6A
Page 523
Country England

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:29

More details on the possible death for Joseph

Shropshire burials Transcription

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Biddle
Birth year 1838
Death year 1873
Death date ? ? 1873
Age 35
Burial year 1873
Burial date 08 Apr 1873
Burial place Newport
Denomination Anglican
County Shropshire
Archive refererence P207/A/4/2
Page 172
Register type Burial
Register date range 1846-1878
Record set

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 May 2016 19:31

possible?


Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)

Biddle John 30 Birmingham 6d 140

Warwickshire Burials Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Biddle
Birth year -
Death year 1901
Burial year 1901
Cemetery Witton cemetery
Place Birmingham, Witton cemetery
County Warwickshire
Country England
Registry reference 220170
URL http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

brummie46

brummie46 Report 19 May 2016 19:33

believe correct in Elizabeth marrying Joseph Biddle in 1866 in Staffordshire and also correct later living in Newport Shropshire with her son John Edward Biddle. But still trying to ascertain what happened to Elizabeth and John Edward after 1891. Not to sure if jOhn wed in 1891 to an ann bagnall in penkridge.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2016 19:33

1881 for Elizabeth and John
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Biddle Head Widow Female 40 1841 Dressmaker Newport, Shropshire, England
John Biddle Son Single Male 12 1869 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 May 2016 19:42

Marriage Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Region Registers At Reference Order Online Adjacent Entries
BIDDLE John E BAGNALL Annie 1891 Castle Town, St Andrew's Mission Church - (St Thomas) Staffordshire Newcastle-Under-Lyme CE5/1/201

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 May 2016 21:02

is it possible that Elizabeth married again? She was still only about 40 in 1881.

Could she have married under her maiden name??

from freebmd .............

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
Blower Arthur Wellington, Sh. 6a 1531
Griffiths John Henry Wellington Sh. 6a 1531
PARKES Martha Wellington Sal 6a 1531
Rowley Elizabeth Wellington, Sh. 6a 1531

Wellington is the Registration District that includes Newport



EDIT:- NO NO

A Public Family Tree has John Henry Griffiths married to Elizabeth Rowley ....... b. Oct 1870, Wellington, parents John Rowley and Louisa Crump.