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Hi my name is Derek Packham , I'm looking for info on my mother,s family her name was Ethel Shilton ,she married Walter Packham, her dads name was William George Shilton ,married Edith shilton(chapman) . They had 12 children . All info will help thanks derek

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1939 Register Transcription

Shilton Household (7 People) 9 Langford Grove , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ethel Packham (Shilton) 23 Sep 1930 Female At School Single 128 6
Edith Shilton 07 May 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 128 1
Joan Roberts (Shilton) 06 Mar 1923 Female Wood Machinist Single 128 2
Stanley Shilton 29 Jun 1928 Male At School Single 128 5
Albert W Shilton 17 Sep 1912 Male Packer Porter Post Office ? Married 128 8
Ellen L Shilton 20 Sep 1916 Female Wood Machinist Married 128 9
Kevin I Shilton 19 Aug 1937 Male Under School Age Single 128 10

Going by Edith's date of birth given on the 1939 Register that Maddie has given above this looks like your grandmother's birth:-

First name(s) EDITH
Last name CHAPMAN
Birth year 1891
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ASTON
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 309
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

Kath. x

Possibly.......

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William George Shilton in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: William George Shilton
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County:Warwickshire
Volume:6d Page:13


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William Shilton in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Shilton
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Mother: Louisa Shilton
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Wolverley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: The Village
Registration district: Kidderminster

Household Members:

James T. Salter 56
Rebecca Salter 55
Thomas Salter 14
George Salter 12
Charles Salter 8
Louisa Shilton 22 (Daughter.......Married) Butchers Wife
William Shilton 2
Clara Shilton 7 months



Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
Salter Louisa Kidderminster 6c 322
SHILTON William Edgar Kidderminster 6c 322

Edit:........Actually, looking through the records, I think William Shilton age 2 is William Edgar Shilton.


Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Shilton William Edgar Aston 6d 381

I think you will need to purchase a copy of the marriage cert for further details regarding William George Shilton. He doesn't seem to appear in any census records.

This looks like your grandmother with her parents and siblings in the 1901 census:-

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Berry Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Wm Jas Chapman Head Married Male 32 1869 Machine Tool Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Eliza Chapman Wife Single Female 30 1871 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Chapman Son Single Female 13 1888 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Edith Chapman Daughter Single Male 10 1891 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Chapman Daughter Single Male 7 1894 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
James Chapman Son Single Male 5 1896 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
George Chapman Son Single Male 2 1899 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Alfred Edward Chapman Son Single Male 0 1901 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ann Cornwall Mother-In-Law Widow Female 77 1824 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

This would make Eliza Chapman your great grandmother and Ann Cornwall your great, great grandmother.

Kath. x

Possible?

Name: William George Shilton
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Aston

County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 75 Turner Street
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Driller
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Bordesley
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Piece: 18229

Joseph Edward Shilton 38
Mary Ann Shilton 37
William George Shilton 15
Alfred Edward Shilton 13
Harold Edward Shilton 8
Arthur Ernest Shilton 4
Leonard Joseph Shilton 1
Susanah Davies 74

Do you have the marriage certificate for William and Edith?
Who did William list as his father?
What was his age, address and occupation?
Who were the witnesses?

From the electoral register:

1927- 1930 Edgbaston St Marys 64 STAFFORD STREET
William George Shilton
Edith Shilton
William Carter
Elizabeth Carter

1935
William George Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE
Edith Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE
Albert William Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE

1939
Edith Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE
Albert Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE
Ellen Shilton 9 LANGFORD GROVE

So possible death for William ?:

Death
Name: William G Shilton
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Mar 1939
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d Page: 583

1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Wallesley St Farm Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Cornwall Head Married Male 58 1823 Gen Labourer Hanley, Staffordshire, England
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Ann Cornwall Wife Married Female 56 1825 Laundress Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
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Eliza Cornwall Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

ELIZA
Last name CORNWALL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1891
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ELIZA CORNWALL married one of these people
WILLIAM CHAPMAN, JOHN THOMAS KNOWLES
District ASTON
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 480
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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William James
Last name Chapman
Birth year -
Death year 1938
Burial year 1938
Cemetery Birmingham, Handsworth cemetery
Number in grave 2
County Warwickshire
Country England
Register number 22270
Family history society contact http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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WILLIAM J
Last name CHAPMAN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1869
Age 69
Death quarter 2
Death year 1938
District BIRMINGHAM
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D
Page 587
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

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William George Shilton in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Name: William George Shilton
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Gunner
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery
Regimental Number: 57378
Previous Units: Base Details. RGA. 57378 Gnr.

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Thomas Cornwall

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Name: Thomas Cornwall
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Date of Trial: 24 Mar 1840
Trial Year: 1840
Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England
Sentence: Acquittal - larceny
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Thos Cornwall
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Thos Cornwall
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Enumeration District 50
Gender Male
Age 44
Marital Status Married
Occupation Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1827
Birthplace Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire
Entry Number 15
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3127/0038
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Thos Cornwall Head M 44 Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire
Ann Cornwall Wife F 40 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
William Richardson Son M 16 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Charles Cornwall Son M 3 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Eliza Cornwall Daughter F 0 Birmingham, Warwickshire
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Thomas Conwell
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name Thomas Conwell
County Warwickshire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthias
Registration District Birmingham
Residence Note Bridge Street
Gender Male
Age 38
Marital Status Married
Occupation Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1823
Birthplace , Warwickshire
Page Number 7
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 2164 / 106
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Thomas Conwell Head M 38 , Warwickshire
Ann Conwell Wife F 38 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
William Richardson Son In Law M 6 Birmingham, Warwickshire
William Conwell Son M 5 Birmingham, Warwickshir

looks like ann corwall was ann richardson but can't find a marriage

This appears to be the William George Shilton from the 1911 census that brummiejan posted..........

William George Shilton in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: William George Shilton
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1895
Baptism Place: Bordesley, Holy Trinity, Warwickshire, England
Father: Joseph Shilton
Mother: Mary Ann Shilton
Reference Number: DRO 15
Archive Roll: 590


William George Shilton in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: William George Shilton
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 8 Sep 1923
Marriage Age: 27
Marriage Place: Ashted, St James the Less, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Doris Evelyn Waters
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Marriage Age: 23
Father: Joseph Edward Shilton
Spouse's Father: Herbert Waters

So he is not your George.

So that medal card (at 14:18) isn't correct either -

1918 24 Beechfield Avenue, Sparkbrook Ward
William George Shilton 57378 RGA
Alfred Edward Shilton 159215 Lc Bomb, 149 Siege Bty, RGA

1922 24 Beechfield Road, Sparkbrook Ward (electoral register)
Joseph Edward Shilton
Mary Shilton
William George Shilton
Alfred Edward Shilton

1939


1939 Register Transcription

Shilton Household (3 People) 17 Netley Grove , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William G Shilton 03 Sep 1895 Male Foreman ?factional Steelwork Married 79 1
Horis E Shilton 09 Dec 1900 Male Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 79 2
Thomas K Rolley 06 Feb 1907 Male Linotype Operator (Newspaper) Single 79 3

Yes- not that one Maddie- Edith was a widow on the 1939 register

perhaps they split up and he remarried ????

ALBERT W
Last name SHILTON
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name CHAPMAN
District BIRMINGHAM
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 124
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptism

Maddie- PH put the marriage (1923) up for William that married Doris Evelyn (the couple that you have on the 1939 register).

It can't be the same person -as William and Edith were together on Electoral registers until at least 1935.