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Elizabeth Cox m James Cole, 1845 Stepney.

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Gwenda

Gwenda Report 10 Aug 2016 00:37

I would greatly appreciate more information on Elizabeth & James. I believe that they are possibly my g.g. grandparents. My great grandmother, Mary Ann Cole m George Sirkett. Their daughter Georgina is my grandmother. Mary Ann's parents were James & Elizabeth Cole, Limehouse, London. Georgina Sirkett m John Farrell, also of LOndon, sometimes living at Woolich. My father Dennis Farrell came out to NZ where I live. Gwenda (Farrell) Alloway.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2016 01:33

This is the Banns, not the full certificate

Elizabeth Cox
Spouse: James Cole
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 21 Dec 1845
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

They were widow and widower of this parish.

A copy of their MC would give you their father's name

Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
COLE James Stepney 2 546
COX Elizabeth Stepney 2 546

Have you discounted this marriage?

Elizabeth Cox (with consent of parents)
Spouse: James Cole (full age)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 May 1847
Parish: St Thomas, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Spouse Father: John Cole
Register Type: Parish Register

James Cole's occupation was a Cordwainer as was his father.
Elizabeth's father Richard Cox was a Mariner.

Witnesses were Catherine Cole and James Cox

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2016 01:46

EDIT in view of later post regarding Mary Ann's marriage, this is NOT correct. Will leave anyway.

Is this the 1911 you have for Mary Ann Cole, or is it a coincidence?

Mary Ann Cole
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bethnal Green
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 10 Hollybush Place, Bethnal Green, London
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: MACHINIST
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 1418
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cole 67 - Bootmaker
Elizabeth Cole 56
James Cole 23
Mary Ann Cole 31
George Cole 18

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2016 01:48

Could you give some dates please for Mary Ann Cole. if we can find her on census both single and married, we are more likely to be able to back track to her parents

Gwenda

Gwenda Report 10 Aug 2016 05:19

Thank you very much for your swift & helpful reply. 'My' Mary Ann Cole married George Sirkett in 1863. George Sirkett was born 1841, Somers Town, & died 1868, Camden Town. His widow Mary Ann did, I believe, marry Robert Beauchamp in 1872. Mary Ann & George had 3 daughters: Mary Ann, Georgina & Elizabeth. Georgina is my grandmother.

I certainly will consider your replies & yes I shall endeavour to get that marriage certificate. :-)

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Aug 2016 09:17

I have found the image of the 1845 Marriage that DET found above

Details are
Marriage 23 Dec 1845, Parish Church, Stepney
Groom James Cole, full age, widower, occ Labourer
Father Thomas Cole occ Labourer
Bride Elizabeth Cox, full age, Widow
Father Thomas Connor
Abode for both Stepney

Witnesses Johiel (looks like) Price & Margaret Burke

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Aug 2016 09:29

they were living as husband and wife on the 1871 census

Name: Georgina Sirkett
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert Beauchamp
Mother's name: Mary Anne Beauchamp
Gender: Female
Where born: Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Household schedule number: 669
Piece: 221
Folio: 89
Page Number: 88
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Beauchamp 27 occ cab driver
Mary Anne Beauchamp 26
Mary Ann Sirkett 6
Georgina Sirkett 5
Elizabeth Sirkett 2

address 78 Chalton street

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Aug 2016 09:32

Name: Mary Ann Sirkett widow
Spouse: Robert Beauchamp batchelor
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Feb 1872
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Coles deceased
Spouse Father: Robert Beauchamp
Register Type: Parish Register


possible death
Name: James Coles
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 77

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Aug 2016 09:48

looks like the family on the 1851 census

Name: Jas Cole
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Cole
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Somers Town
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:coachmaker

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Piece: 1496
Folio: 446
Page Number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas Cole 35 born shoreditch
Elizth Cole 28 ditto
Mary Cole 7 ditto
Chas Cole 5 b St Pancras
James Cole 3 ditto
Eliza Cole 2 ditto