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Annabel

Annabel Report 2 Oct 2016 12:43

Trying to find the birth of Jane Bishop 1839-1889

married to a George Fuggle 1860 then to George Britcher 1880 Tenderden

on the census birth given as 1839

lots of trees give her birth 1826

my friends grandmother was Bertha Fuggle 1871 Janes daughter

can any one find a birth in 1839 for her as 1826 does not seem right

thank you Ann

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Oct 2016 13:11

Just to confirm - is this the right family?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ashford Road, Tenterden, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Fuggle Head Married Male 24 1837 Agricultural Labourer Tenterden, Kent, England
Jane Fuggle Wife Married Female 22 1839 Labourers Wife Biddenden, Kent, England
Mary A Fuggle Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Tenterden, Kent, England
George C Fuggle Son - Male 1 1860 - Tenterden, Kent, England

Don't believe other people's trees unless there is supporting evidence.

Maybe she doctored her age to be closer to that of George?

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 13:13

1861
861 England Census
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Name Jane Fuggle
Age 40
Estimated Birth Year 1821
Relation Head
Gender Female
Where born Tenterden, Kent, England
Civil parish Tenterden
Ecclesiastical parish Canterbury
Town Tenterden
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Tenterden
Sub-registration district Tenterden
ED, institution, or vessel 3
Household schedule number 124
Piece 510
Folio 40
Page number 22
Household Members
Name Age
Jane Fuggle
George Fuggle
Susan Watson

1851
1851 England Census
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Name Jane Bishop
Age 28
Estimated Birth Year abt 1823
Relation Daughter
Mother's Name Mary Bishop
Gender Female
Where born Tenterden, Kent, England
Civil parish Tenterden
4634
Town Tenterden
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Tenterden
Sub-registration district Rolvenden
ED, institution, or vessel 2b
Household schedule number 86
Piece 1620
Folio 227
Page number 21
Household Members
Name Age
Mary Bishop 60
Jane Bishop 28
Edward Bishop 25
William Duxbury 55

1841
1841 England Census
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Name Jane Bishop
Age 15
Estimated Birth Year abt 1826
Gender Female
Where born Kent, England
Civil parish Tenterden
Hundred Tenterden
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Tenterden
Sub-registration district Tenterden
Piece 476
Book 1
Folio 29
Page number 14
Household Members
Name Age
George Bishop 50
Mary Bishop 50
George Bishop 25
Charles Bishop 20
Jane Bishop 15
Edward Bishop 15
Mary Bishop 12


1841 for george
1841 England Census
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Name George Fuggle
Age Above 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Gender Male
Where born Kent, England
Civil parish Tenterden
Hundred Tenterden
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Tenterden
Sub-registration district Tenterden
Piece 476
Book 1
Folio 36
Page number 28
Household Members
Name Age
George Fuggle Above 20
Henry Fuggle Above 20


Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 13:15

Name Jane Bishop
Gender Female
Christening Date 17 Nov 1822
Christening Place Tenterden, Kent, England
Father's Name George Bishop
Mother's Name Mary
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX4M-F9D : 30 December 2014), Jane Bishop, 17 Nov 1822; citing Tenterden, Kent, England, reference 100; FHL microfilm 1,473,771.

safc

safc Report 2 Oct 2016 13:16


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ashford Road, Tenterden, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Britcher Head Married Male 41 1840 Shoemaker Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Jane Britcher Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Laura Britcher Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Dora Britcher Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Louis Fuggle (Britcher) Step Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Bertha Fuggle (Britcher) Step Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Alfred Fuggle (Britcher) Step Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Harry Britcher Son Single Male 2 1879 Scholar Tenterden, Kent, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Oct 2016 13:16

Kent Marriages Transcription

First name(s) George
Last name Fuggle
Marriage year 1860
Marriage year as transcribed 1860
Marriage date 13 Feb 1860
Church St Mildred
Marriage place Tenterden, St Mildred
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Bishop
Groom's first name George
Groom's last name Fuggle
Groom's residence Otp
Bride's first name Jane
Bride's last name Bishop
Bride's residence OTP
Banns or licence Banns
County Kent

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 13:18

1881 but b irth year is 1840

Jane Britcher
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Jane Britcher
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Tenterden, Kent, England
Registration District Tenterden
Residence Note Ashford Road
Gender Female
Age 41
Marital Status (Original) Married
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1840
Birthplace Tenterden, Kent, England
Page Number 10
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 942/17
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
George Britcher Head M 41 Tenterden, Kent, England
Jane Britcher Wife F 41 Tenterden, Kent, England
Laura Britcher Daughter F 14 Tenterden, Kent, England
Dora Britcher Daughter F 11 Tenterden, Kent, England
Louis Fuggle (Britcher) Step Son M 13 Tenterden, Kent, England
Bertha Fuggle (Britcher) Step Daughter F 10 Tenterden, Kent, England
Alfred Fuggle (Britcher) Step Son M 8 Tenterden, Kent, England
Harry Britcher Son M 2 Tenterden, Kent, England
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1881," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-XMGP : 18 August 2016), Jane Britcher in household of George Britcher, Tenterden, Kent, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing p. 10, Piece/Folio 942/17, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,440.


England and Wales Census, 1881
Household ID 954725
Line Number 19
GS Film Number 101774440
Digital Folder Number 101774440
Image Number 00313

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 13:28

marriage to george

Kent Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) George
Last name Fuggle
Marriage year 1860
Marriage year as transcribed 1860
Marriage date 13 Feb 1860
Church St Mildred
Marriage place Tenterden, St Mildred
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Bishop
Groom's first name George
Groom's last name Fuggle
Groom's residence Otp
Bride's first name Jane
Bride's last name Bishop
Bride's residence OTP
Banns or licence Banns
County Kent
Record source Tenterden St Mildred marriages 1837-1894
Record set Kent Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Kent Family History Society

a george born 1818


Kent Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) George
Last name Fuggle
Birth year 1818
Marriage year 1843
Marriage year as transcribed 1843
Marriage date 29 Jul 1843
Church St Mildred
Marriage place Tenterden, St Mildred
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Webb
Groom's first name George
Groom's last name Fuggle
Groom's birth year 1818
Groom's age 25
Groom's residence Otp
Bride's first name Mary Ann
Bride's last name Webb
Bride's birth year 1824
Bride's age 19
Bride's residence OTP
Banns or licence Banns
County Kent
Record source Tenterden St Mildred marriages 1837-1894
Record set Kent Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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George
Last name Fuggle
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 28 Nov 1817
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name 28
Parent's occupation Labourer
Residence Tenterden
Dedication St Mildred
Place Tenterden, St Mildred
County Kent
Country England
Record source Tenterden St Mildred baptisms 1544-1860
Record set Kent Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Kent Family History Society

Kent Family History Society

jane to britcher
JANE
Last name FUGGLE
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1880
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JANE FUGGLE married one of these people
THOMAS SHARP, GEORGE BRITCHER
District TENTERDEN
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 869
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 14:23

so jane c 1823
ishop Jane 1826 — 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Image
Bishop Jane 1823 — 1851 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Image
BISHOP JANE — — 1860 England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Tenterden, Kent, England
Transcription
Image
Bishop Jane — — 1860 Kent Marriages Kent, England

can't find anything prior to 1861 for jane born c 1839 in the tenterden area

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Oct 2016 15:27

a tree on ancestry has this but no documantrry proof

marriage
24 October 1857 • The Superintendant Registrar's Office, Cranbrook, Kent, England
George Fuggle

(1837–1874)
MARY JANE
Last name FUGGLE
Birth year 1858
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District CRANBROOK
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 438
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Tenterden, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Fuggle Head - Male 33 1838 - Kent, England
Transcription
Jane Fuggle Wife - Female 31 1840 - Kent, England
Transcription
Mary J Fuggle Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Kent, England
Transcription
George O Fuggle Son - Male 10 1861 - Kent, England
Transcription
Fredrick W Fuggle Son - Male 9 1862 - Kent, England
Transcription
Nelson H Fuggle Son - Male 7 1864 - Kent, England
Transcription
Archibald E Fuggle Son - Male 4 1867 - Kent, England
Transcription
Louis O A Fuggle Son - Male 2 1869 - Kent, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2016 15:38

I think we're talking about two different Janes. (And two different George Fuggles.)

Annabel's friend's gr-grandmother was Jane Hinkley 1839, not Jane Bishop 1822.

Jane 1839:

In 1861 (as posted by Greyghost) she was married to a George Fuggle, and had children Mary (3) and George.

Their marriage? -

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
Fuggle George Cranbrook 2a 779
Hinkley Jane Cranbrook 2a 779

Her birth?

Births Mar 1839 (>99%)
HINKLEY Jane Cranbrook 5 72

1861 says she was born Biddenden, but that may have been a mistake by the enumerator - Benenden is in Cranbrook reg district.

The 1871 census (though mistranscribed), does say she was born Benenden on the image.

George Fuggle
in the 1871 England Census
Name: George Fuggle
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: John Fuggle [Jane]
Gender: Male
Where born: Tenterden, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tenterden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mildred
Town: Tenterden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tenterden
Sub-registration district: Tenterden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 954
Folio: 44
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fuggle 33
John Fuggle 31 - [Jane]
Mary J Fuggle 13
Gene O Fuggle 10 - [George]
Fredrick W Fuggle 9
Nelson H Fuggle 7
Archibald E Fuggle 4
Louis O A Fuggle 2

Then husband George died:

George Fuggle
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Fuggle
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Tenterden
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 380

and then Jane married George Britcher, as already posted.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2016 15:43

The other Jane, born 1822 (Bishop) - christening posted above by Maddie:

Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
Bishop Jane Tenterden 2a 588
Fuggle George Tenterden 2a 588

She's in the other 1861 census, posted by Maddie, with son George, and Susan Watson.

(Posting again here)

Jane Fuggle
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Jane Fuggle
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Tenterden, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tenterden
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
Town: Tenterden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tenterden
Sub-registration district: Tenterden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 510
Folio: 40
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Fuggle 40
George Fuggle 2/12
Susan Watson 53

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2016 15:56

Jane Hinkley of Benenden / Biddenden:

Jane Hinkley
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Jane Hinkley
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: Biddenden
Hundred: Berkeley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tenterden
Sub-registration district: Rolvenden
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 471
Book: 7
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hinkley 65
Maria Hinkley 40
Sophia Hinkley 11
Sarah Hinkley 8
Miram Hinkley 6
Elizebeth Hinkley 4
Jane Hinkley 2
Samuel Hinkley 4 Mo


Jane Hinkly
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Jane Hinkly
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Maria Hinkly
Gender: Female
Where born: Benenden, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Benenden
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Cranbrook
Sub-registration district: Cranbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 1619
Folio: 215
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Hinkly 51
Elizth Hinkly 14
Jane Hinkly 12
Saml Hinkly 10
Lousia Hinkly 7


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2016 16:01

Re Jane Hinkley's birth:

Births Mar 1839 (>99%)
HINKLEY Jane Cranbrook 5 72 - [ Benenden ?]
HINKLY Jane Tenterden 5 416 - [ Biddenden ?]

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Oct 2016 16:33

County Kent
Place Benenden
Church name St George
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 18 Aug 1822
Groom forename Henry
Groom surname HINKLEY
Bride forename Maria
Bride surname WORSLEY

(if relating anywhere, from below free link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Edits

http://tinyurl.com/gt2bdz2

(Find A Grave)

Maria Worsley Hinkley
Birth: 1801
Kent, England
Death: Feb. 14, 1872
Benenden
Kent, England

Annabel

Annabel Report 3 Oct 2016 01:51

Thank you all for your reply's really appreciate it, will study all of them today

, having a quick look, Jane Hinkley married a George Fuggle she died 1858 had a daughter Mary looks like George then married Jane Bishop 1860.

Ann

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2016 07:00

Kent & Sussex Courier - Wednesday 08 July 1874

On the 27th ult at Tenterden, after a short and painful illness, George Fuggle aged 37 years. The deceased has left a widow (who is ill) with eight children to lament their loss.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Oct 2016 08:08

Annabel, George didn't marry twice-

Look at ArgyllGran's post- George married Jane Hinkley, born 1839.

Jane Bishop married another George (I suspect he died shortly after he married Jane Bishop, which is why there is a lot of confusion).

Possibly the death of George that married Jane Bishop:

Death:
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name FUGGLE
Gender Male
Death quarter 1
Death year 1861
District TENTERDEN
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 344

This is Jane (nee Bishop) in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back of High Street Mayers Place, Tenterden, Kent, England

Jane Fuggle Head Widow Female 40 1821 Dressmaker Tenterden, Kent, England
George Fuggle Son Unmarried Male 0 1861 - Tenterden, Kent, England
Susan Watson Boarder Married Female 53 1808 Charwoman Biddenden, Kent,
-----------------------------------------------------

And this is the Jane (nee Hinkley) in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ashford Road, Tenterden, Kent, England

George Fuggle Head Married Male 24 1837 Agricultural Labourer Tenterden, Kent, England
Jane Fuggle Wife Married Female 22 1839 Labourers Wife Biddenden, Kent, England
Mary A Fuggle Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Tenterden, Kent, England
George C Fuggle Son - Male 1 1860 - Tenterden, Kent, England



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Oct 2016 08:22

Would Bertha's birth certificate not confirm Jane's maiden surname? You could then be sure of an accurate tree.


First name(s) BERTHA BEATRICE
Last name FUGGLE
Birth year 1871
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District TENTERDEN
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 637
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Annabel

Annabel Report 3 Oct 2016 09:03

My original post Trying to find the birth of Jane Bishop 1839-1889

married to a George Fuggle 1860 then to George Britcher 1880 Tenderden

on the census birth given as 1839

lots of trees give her birth 1826

my friends grandmother was Bertha Fuggle 1871 Janes daughter

can any one find a birth in 1839 for her as 1826 does not seem right

thank you Ann

Bertha's mother was Jane Bishop

1861 census daughter Mary was born 1858 3 years before George and Jane Bishops marriage, will tell my friend get a copy of her birth cert