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Alan

Alan Report 7 Dec 2016 10:31

Could some one please give me the details of the this marriage:-

Web: Manitoba, Marriage Index, 1879-1931
NAME: Alice Maud Stacey
SPOUSE: Robert Shepherd
MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1914 - Victoria, Manitoba, Canada.

I have a Alice Maud Mary Stacey born 14 March 1892 Heckfield Hants. Fathers name Samual.

As I can find no trace of Alice after the 1911 census I was hoping this might be her.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Alan.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2016 10:48

Have you looked to see if she is on the passenger lists

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 7 Dec 2016 10:50

marrige index only Allan, but...

Miss Alice Stacy arrived in Canada aboard The Royal George on 7 Jul 1912 departing Bristol.
She was a a domestic servant and her destination was Manitoba.
Marriage as above.

1921:Alice Shepherd
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Manitoba
District: Macdonald


Robert Shepherd 39 B England
Alice Shepherd 29
Chester Shepherd 6
Ella Shepherd 5
Frank Shepherd 4
Olive Shepherd 1

safc

safc Report 7 Dec 2016 10:53

????


Alice Shepherd
Canada Census, 1916
Name Alice Shepherd
Event Type Census
Event Date 1916
Event Place Manitoba, Canada
Gender Female
Age 24
Marital Status Married
Ethnicity English
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1892
Immigration Year 1912
Township 6
Province Manitoba
District Number 04 Macdonald
Sub-District Number 12
Page 32
Affiliate Film Number T-21927
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Robert Shepherd Self M 34y England
Alice Shepherd Wife F 24y England
Chester Shepherd Son M 9m Manitoba
Edgar Strain Servant M 20y Ontario
Citing this Record

"Canada Census, 1916," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMGV-4GF : 5 November 2014), Alice Shepherd in household of Robert Shepherd, Manitoba, Canada; citing p. 32, line 8; Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,434,942.

safc

safc Report 7 Dec 2016 10:54

????

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

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First name(s) ALICE
Last name STACY
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age 18
Birth year 1894
Occupation DOMESTIC
Departure year 1912
Departure day 10
Departure month 7
Departure port BRISTOL
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ROYAL GEORGE
Ship official number 125643
Ship master's first name JAMES
Ship master's last name HARRISON
Shipping line ROYAL LINE
City BRISTOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 15283
Ship registered tonnage 5685
Number of passengers 1101
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States & Canada

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 7 Dec 2016 11:04

Allan,
There is also a girl named Alice Maud Mary Stacey who married Arthur Roland Seaward in 1915.
I'm not good with English counties but they married in Norbiton and lived in New Malden

EDIT:
Found her.
Her father's name was Thomas and mother was Florence


The Canadian one looks right.
Your Alice had sister named Ella and Alice in Canada also had a daughter named Ella

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2016 11:07

It doesn't have anything other than the entry ,but this looks a possble

Alice Shepherd
in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Name: Alice Shepherd
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Est. Birth Year: 1892
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba
Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd
Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M.
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Shepherd 34
Alice Shepherd 24
Chester Shepherd 0
Edgar Strain 20

safc

safc Report 7 Dec 2016 11:07

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Grisby Daisy E Savage Kingston 2a 1163
Savage Henry A Grisby Kingston 2a 1163
Seaward Arthur R Stacey Kingston 2a 1163
Stacey Alice M M Seaward Kingston 2a 1163

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Dec 2016 11:09

????
Alice Shepherd

in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Record Image View

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Name: Alice Shepherd
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Est. Birth Year: 1892
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 12, Macdonald, Manitoba
Address: 6, 13, W, Argyle
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Shepherd
Sub District Desc.: Townships 5 and 6, ranges 12 and 13, W.P.M.
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Shepherd 34
Alice Shepherd 24
Chester Shepherd 0
Edgar Strain 20


Alice Maud Stacey

in the Web: Manitoba, Marriage Index, 1879-1931

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Name: Alice Maud Stacey
Gender: Female
Spouse: Robert Shepherd
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1914
Marriage Place: Victoria, Manitoba, Canada
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Alan

Alan Report 7 Dec 2016 11:23

Thanks all of you for the information and for your help and time.

I am not certain if its the Alice I am looking for. I had hoped it said place of birth in England and the fathers name.

The marriage GlasgowLass mentioned is not mine. The certificate is on Ancestry.

alan.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Dec 2016 11:38

A tree on Ancestry gives her place of birth as Heckfield, Southampton and her mother's name as Florence Stacey.

Alan

Alan Report 7 Dec 2016 11:43

Hello Maddie.

Found the site. $12 for more details plus postage.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 7 Dec 2016 11:45

Allan,
I think I've found the answer.
Is this your Alice at 1911?

63 Grange Avenue, Reading, Berks
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Biscuit Factory Employee *****

Household:
Percival Charles Brooker 23
Florence Maud Brooker 23
Alice Maud Stacey 19 ****


Alice who emigrated to Canada in 1912 was a Biscuit Packer but was bound for Cypress River, Manitoba and intended to go into Domestic service.
As showing , Alice in Reading at 1911 was a biscuit packer

Alice travelled with another girl, also a biscuit packer named Florence Hookway.
This is Florence in the same area of Reading at 1911 and was travelling to Canada to be married.

29 Belmont Road, Reading
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Biscuit Packer *****

William Hookway 45
Margaret Hookway 43
Florence Hookway 17 b Neath ****
Rosemond Hookway 15
Kate May Hookway 10
Albert Hookway 7
Harry Hookway 5

Florence Hookway married in Ontario in 1913

Alan

Alan Report 7 Dec 2016 12:00

Hello MargaretM.

That tree on Ancestry is all wrong. It states born 1894 Heckfield but the 1901/11 census saved is for a person born 1894 Surrey. I have added a comment on his tree pointing this out.

Alan

Alan Report 7 Dec 2016 12:19

Hello GlasgowLass.

Yes that is my Alice on 1911 census. I think you have found the proof I needed.

Thank you very much for your help and time.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 7 Dec 2016 12:27

Hi Allan,
Yes, I suspect that it's too much of a coincidence not to be the same girl who married Robert Shepherd!

I see her sister Ella ( Salt) also lived in Canada.
They don't appear on any census returns because the Salt family emigrated in 1921 but they did travel back and forth to Reading a few tiimes

Alan

Alan Report 8 Dec 2016 11:19

Could some one please give me the details shown on the:-

British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
NAME: Alice Maud Shepherd
BIRTH: year
DEATH: dd mm 1975 - city.

It would be much appreciated.

Dea

Dea Report 8 Dec 2016 11:28

You can see that death cert here, but it's not the one you are looking for:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/7a3d79f0-87db-49b3-9e10-e3922cf13518

Dea x

Alan

Alan Report 8 Dec 2016 11:38

Hello Dea.

Thank you very much for your time.

mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Dec 2016 21:55

GlasgowLass gave the 1921 census for Alice - I'm going to focus on Robt here

Looking more at 1921 Robt
City, Town or Village: Victoria Municipality
Street or Township: 18 7 12W 1
Municipality: Victoria
Robert Shepherd 68 [39] - actually says age 38, immig 1888, Farmer
etc
I've sent Alan the image 1921_023-E002882119.jpg by pm

Now here's an 1888 immigrant family:
Ship:POLYNESIAN
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Londonderry, Ireland
Date of Departure: 1888-03-29 1888-03
Port of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. Baltimore, MD
Date of Arrival: 1888-04-07 1888-04
Year:1888
Microfilm Reel Number:C-4513
Remarks: List Number: 37
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:7760

Ancestry gives:
Name Birth Year Date of Arrival Port of Arrival Port of Departure Vessel View Images
Wm Shepherd abt 1858 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Jane Shepherd abt 1859 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Jane Shepherd abt 1877 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Wm Shepherd abt 1878 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Francis Shepherd abt 1880 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Robt Shepherd abt 1882 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Betsy Shepherd abt 1884 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Thomas Shepherd abt 1885 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
Radish Shepherd 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
[There's a correction note giving Obadiah for Radish]
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674460.jpg
The family is headed for Brandon MB

There's another Shepherd on the ship - a Mach headed for Winnipeg, but I don't see any connection to Robt.
Chas H Shepherd abt 1867 7 Apr 1888 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA Liverpool, England Polynesian
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003674456.jpg


Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
Lambert Jane Sedbergh 9a 1
Shepherd William Sedbergh 9a 1

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SHEPHERD, WILLIAM MOOR Order
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

LAMBERT, JANE BIRKBECK Order
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

---------------

SHEPHERD, JANE LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 4 Occasional Copy: A

SHEPHERD, WILLIAM LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 09A Page 5

SHEPHERD, DOROTHY LAMBERT LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 713
-- Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
SHEPHERD Dorothy Lambert 2 E.Ward 10b 392

SHEPHERD, FRANCIS LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 661

SHEPHERD, ROBERT LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 670

SHEPHERD, BETSY LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681

SHEPHERD, THOMAS LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 657

SHEPHERD, OBADIAH LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in EAST WARD Volume 10B Page 681

Here they are in 1881:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-L1YJ
[The 2 older kids are with grandparents]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WHC9
SHEPHERD, ROBERT MOOR Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in SEDBERGH Volume 23 Page 631

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-WWXQ
Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
Bentham Robert Sedbergh 9a 1
BIRBECK Dorothy Sedbergh 9a 1
Capstick Margaret Sedbergh 9a 1
Lambert Francis Sedbergh 9a 1

Dent was a civil parish and subdistrict in Sedbergh RD. This RD was in the W Riding, but taken over by Kendal RD in 1974.


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1891 Here they are in 1891
Surname: Shephard
Given Name(s): Jane
Age: 33
Province: Manitoba
District Name: Selkirk
Sub-District Name: Brandon (City)
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148097-00055

They have 3 more kids - Christopher (whose rego I don't find) and:

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889-004156
Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: LAMBERT
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 04/05/1889
Place of Birth: R.M. OF CORNWALLIS
Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: UNKNOWN Mother's Marital Status:
MOTHER'S DETAILS Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE
[who presumably died before his 2nd b'day]

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1893-005923
Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: AGNES
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 24/02/1893
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Birth Weight: grams Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: LAMBERT Given Names: JANE

but then disaster:

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1894-002011
DECEASED DETAILS Last Name: SHEPHERD
Given Names: WILLIAM Sex: MALE
Date of Death: 29/10/1894 Time of Death:
Place of Death: BRANDON
BIRTH DETAILS Date of Birth: Age At Death: 39 Units of age: YEARS

It looks likely that Jane returned to Yorkshire, taking all? her family with her (I've not foound Jane or Wm after 1891).


Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Dinsdale Hannah Settle 9a 15
Hick Edmund Hebert Settle 9a 15
Hick Edmund Herbert Settle 9a 15
>>Shepherd Jane Settle 9a 15
>>Swinbank Christopher Settle 9a 15

1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-91R
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/100 Page Number 9]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PV-9TL
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4020/98 Page Number 6]
so just 3 pages away
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PJ-R2W
[Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4019/6 Page Number 4]
Francis is in Dent with his gran (& uncle)

Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
SWINBANK Christopher 60 Settle 9a 7

1911 [head with her son]
First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Registration district Parish County
Jane Swinbank 1858 Yorks Cowgill Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Frank Shepherd 1880 Westmorland Firbank Sedbergh Dent Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
[rg14/25710 - a Dent subdistrict piece # (for ED 1) in Sebergh RD]

Is this Frank marrying a possible cousin?
Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Lambert Margaret Sedburgh 9a 2
Shepherd Francis Sedbergh 9a 2