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1911 census look up, please.

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Hilary

Hilary Report 11 Jan 2017 07:21

Could someone please look up Emma Jane Feast, born 1895, living in Chatteris, Cambs on 1911 census, please. Done the search on FMP but can't find her on 1901 census.
Thanks

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jan 2017 07:53

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bridge Street, Chatteris, Chatteris (Isle of Ely), North Witchford, Cambridgeshire, England

William Golding Head Married Male 38 1863 Carter On Farm Chatteris, Cambridgeshire,
Sarah Golding Wife Married Female 28 1873 Carter On Farm Chatteris, Cambridgeshire,
Thomas Golding Son - Male 10 1891 - Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Emma Golding Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Lilly Golding Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
-----------------------------------

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bridge Street Chatteris Cambridgeshire, Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England

William Golden Head Single Male Farm Labourer 64 1847 Cambs March
Sarah Ann Feast Servant Single Female Housekeeper 39 1872 Cambs Ely
Thomas William Golden Feast Son Single Male Farm Labourer 20 1891 Cambs Chatteris
Emma Jane Golden Feast Daughter Single Female Work On Land 16 1895 Cambs Chatteris
Lily Golden Feast Daughter Single Female Scholar 12 1899 Cambs Chatteris
Frederick John Golden Feast Son Single Male Scholar 8 1903 Cambs Chatteris
Bertie Golden Feast Son Single Male Scholar 5 1906 Cambs Chatteris
Florence Fanny Golden Feast Daughter Single Female - 2 1909 Cambs Chatteris

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jan 2017 07:53

Is that her below?...

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Feast Emma J Ingram N. Witchford 3b 1331
Ingram Arthur F Feast N. Witchford 3b 1331


Birth
338/CHA/33/249 GOLDEN Emma J 1894

http://www.camdex.org.uk/search.cfm


Edits

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Feast Sarah A Golden N.Witchford 3b 730
Golden William Feast N.Witchford 3b 730

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jan 2017 07:59

Birth from GRO:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GOLDEN, EMMA JANE mmn: FEAST
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD Volume 03B Page 530

Hilary

Hilary Report 11 Jan 2017 08:01

Thankyou, yes all info correct. Looks like he had children with the housekeeper & they took her name as well.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jan 2017 08:03

Is he on another 'Thread'?, seems familiar...

Chris :)

Edits (apologies, might have been Farby, I knew Chatteris featured somewhere, lol)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 11 Jan 2017 08:08

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Golden Emma Jane N. Witchford 3b 530


Emma J Ingram on the 1939 Register

Household (1 Person) 107 Lincensed Premiers & Lodging House High Street , Chatteris U.D., Cambridgeshire, England

Emma J Ingram 06 Oct 1894 Female Agricultural Work Heavy Work Married 40 19


Emma Jane Ingram in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Emma Jane Ingram
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1894
Date of Registration: Sep 1983
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Fenland
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 9
Page: 1156

William and Sarah didn't marry until 1912

William Golden in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Golden
Spouse Surname: Feast
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: North Witchford
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 730
Records on Page:
Name
Sarah A Feast
William Golden



Hilary

Hilary Report 11 Jan 2017 16:39

Thankyou everyone for your input. I have looked & got myself totally confused about the census results. How can the ages of William be so different between the 2. Can't get my head around it.
Chris, yes it was Farby.
Need to look at it another day & start again. :-S

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 17:03

1911 original has William Golden as 46 (not 64) - Have reported to FMP

There is also a Memo written in on the form and initialled E.J.B. Reg), stating that William Golden is the Father of the children (who have all had Feast added in red after Golden)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jan 2017 17:52

(saw below)

Chris :)

Cambridgeshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) THOMAS WILLIAM GOLDEN
Last name FEAST
Year Of Birth 1891
Birth date 18 Apr 13
Baptism year 1891
Baptism date 10 May 1891
Place CHATTERIS
Mother's Given Name
Father's First Name
Father occupation single woman


Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Feast Thomas William G N Witchford 3b 601


FEAST, THOMAS WILLIAM GOLDEN -
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD Volume 03B Page 601


FEAST, FLORENCE FANNY GOLDEN -
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD Volume 03B Page 472


National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Emma
Last name Feast
Birth year 1894
Birth date 06 Sep 1894
Event year 1902
School name Chatteris, New Road Girls' School
Town Chatteris
County Cambridgeshire
Parent name(s) Will. Feast Feast
(Address, Bridge Street)

(others also)


Edits (no idea of things, but another William about!)

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Elm
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 21 Dec 1873
Person forename William
Person abode Elm
Father forename William
Father surname GOLDEN
Father occupation Farmer
Mother forename Fanny Mary


Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Elm
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 10 Nov 1872
Person forename Charles Alfred
Person abode Elm
Father forename William
Father surname GOLDEN
Father occupation Farmer
Mother forename Fanny Mary


County Cambridgeshire
Place Elm
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 21 Nov 1869
Person forename Frederick William Elliott
Person abode Elm
Father forename William
Father surname GOLDEN
Father occupation Farmer
Mother forename Fanny Mary


http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)


Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Golden William N Witchford 3b 1339
Elliott Fanny Mary N Witchford 3b 1339


Cambridgeshire Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) William
Last name Golden
Birth year 1841
Death year 1933
Age 92
Burial year 1933
Burial date 17 Apr 1933
Residence 3 West End
Parish March, Station Road Cemetery
County Cambridgeshire
Grave details C 61


First name(s) Fanny Mary
Last name Golden
Birth year 1844
Death year 1925
Age 81
Burial year 1925
Burial date 11 Dec 1925
Residence West End
Parish March, Station Road Cemetery
County Cambridgeshire
Grave details C 60

Above with Son William, 1881, Redmoor House, Fridaybridge Road, Elm, Wisbech,

(then)

1881 The Gault, Chatteris, North Witchford, Cambridgeshire
William Golden Son Single Male 18 1863 Ag Lab March, Cambridgeshire, England
Mother, Sarah, Widow.


1871 Sarah with William (1864) Doddington Workhouse, also Emma 10, Tom 9, Jane 6

Hilary

Hilary Report 12 Jan 2017 05:42

Thanks everyone. Got myself really confused but clearer now. :-) Been doing this for a friend, ironic that I live on the same road as Sarah & William in March. No 3 West End is a large house & now up for sale. I assume they would have only had a room.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jan 2017 06:46

Have you seen 1912 Marriage Cert. for William and Sarah Feast? (presume this is who you are following back)

Otherwise could well be confusing! (one being son of William/Fanny M, other being Son of Sarah).

Chris :)

(I believe at one time you offered look up's from Chatteris Parish cd, any help with things from that at all?)

Hilary

Hilary Report 12 Jan 2017 10:10

Yes I do have the records for Chatteris, was looking at them yesterday trying to work it out but got myself so confused with Williams & surnames that I had to leave it. Thanks for all the help.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jan 2017 12:48

If you do get 1912 Marriage Cert., post back here with details, am sure we can then help further...

Chris :)

Hilary

Hilary Report 16 Jan 2017 16:19

Hi, looked on the Parish Records for the marriage & this is what it says.
William Golden, 47,Bac. lab.otp. son of Thomas, lab.
Sarah Ann Feast,40, spin. otp. Daughter of Edmond.
Wits. Henry Fishery? Bagshaw.
Mary Jane Winters.
Feb 27th 1912 Chatteris, Cambs. By Superintendants Certificate. What does that mean?
This makes William's birth 1865 & Sarah's birth 1872.
Found a Sarah Ann Golding death 1905 Cambridge on FBMD.
If this is the 1st Sarah on 1901 census, then the 2nd Sarah had her 1st child Fred John Golden Feast born 1903 on 1911 census before 1st Sarah had died!
:-S

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 16 Jan 2017 16:30

Not sure what you mean? Are you thinking the Sarah on the 1901 is different to the Sarah on the 1911?

I think they are the same people (this Sarah):

Cambridgeshire Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) SARAH ANN
Last name FEAST
Year Of Birth 1872
Baptism year 1872
Baptism date 25 Feb 1872
Abode of Newnham
Place ELY, HOLY TRINITY
Mother's Given Name Jane
Father's First Name Edmund
Father occupation lab
County Cambridgeshire
Record set Cambridgeshire Baptisms
-------------------------------

Their child Thomas :

FEAST, THOMAS WILLIAM GOLDEN
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD Volume 03B Page 601

Their child Frederick:

FEAST, FREDERICK JOHN GOLDEN
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in NORTH WITCHFORD Volume 03B Page 503

Hilary

Hilary Report 16 Jan 2017 16:38

Yes was thinking they were different people but had starting thinking they were the same. Been so confused with it I needed someone else to have a look. So they lied on 1901 census about being married. I know that it is not unusual. Think you may have cracked it.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jan 2017 16:39

https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriage_by_Registrar%27s_Certificate_or_Licence_in_England_and_Wales

(reference above Marriage)


Cambridgeshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) SARAH ANN
Last name FEAST
Year Of Birth 1872
Baptism year 1872
Baptism date 25 Feb 1872
Abode of Newnham
Place ELY, HOLY TRINITY
Mother's Given Name Jane
Father's First Name Edmund
Father occupation lab

(1881,Bull Lane, Ely Holy Trinity, Ely, Cambridgeshire)


Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------
FEAST Edmund Ely 3b 657
SAVAGE Jane Ely 3b 657

Chris :)

Edits (just seen AQ)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 16 Jan 2017 16:40

Yes- not unusual for unmarried couples with children to lie about their status.

The 1905 death is not the correct Sarah as that one was born in 1851.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jan 2017 16:42

What are details for said Father Thomas, on Cert.?...(just seen lab. is he Deceased?)

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past)
William Golden Head Married Male 29 1862 Farmer March, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Golden Wife Married Female 20 1871 - Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
Charles Golden Brother Single Male 14 1877 Agricultural Laborer Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Street Bridge Street
Town Chatteris
Parish Chatteris
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district North Witchford
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1300
Folio 128
Page 12

(1891 Census taken 5th April, so right near to Birthdate of Thomas WG Feast, 18th)



1881 (Find My Past)
Sarah Golden Head Widow Female 39 1842 Ag Work March, Cambridgeshire, England
William Golden Son Single Male 18 1863 Ag Lab March, Cambridgeshire, England
Jane Golden Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Ag Work March, Cambridgeshire, England
Fred Golden Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Doddington, Cambridgeshire, England
Charles Golden Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
House name The Gault
Parish Chatteris
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district North Witchford
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 1689
Folio 43
Page 24

(so looks like above then, perhaps)

(although!)

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Doddington
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1620
Baptism date 14 Feb 1869
Person forename Frederic
Person abode March
Father occupation Single woman
Mother forename Sarah
Mother surname GOLDEN


(then according to this on FMP, Father of Jane, as John, deceased)

Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
GOLDEN Jane N.Witchford 3b 969
STEVENSON Robert N. Witchford 3b 969


(perhaps a good look round on cd, might bring more on above family, if they relate to William, as posted earlier, Sarah in Doddington Workhouse with some children 1871)


http://www.marchmuseum.co.uk/archives2.html

(above might be useful)