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Adam blackstock born c1876.

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Neil

Neil Report 24 Jan 2017 15:23

I would like to know more about him as he was my great grandfather.
Married to Jane Scott Fallen (Fallon) and their son was John fallon born 1903.
Thank you :-)

malyon

malyon Report 24 Jan 2017 15:32

not seeing a birth or marriage for adam was it in uk

Dea

Dea Report 24 Jan 2017 15:33

Where and when were they married please and where was the son John born?

Dea x

malyon

malyon Report 24 Jan 2017 15:43

looks like they were not married when the son john was born

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 16:42

A tree on Ancestry has this census for Jane Scott Fallon:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
South Corrie Lane, Drysfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Adam Blacklock - Married Male 48 1853 Farmer Dumfriesshire,
Elizabeth Blacklock - Married Female 46 1855 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
William Blacklock - Single Male 20 1881 Worker With Horse On Farm Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock - Single Male 13 1888 (1883 on Ancestry) Worker With Cattle On Farm Dumfriesshire
Stewart Blacklock - Single Male 17 1884 Worker With Horse On Farm Dumfriesshire,
Graham Blacklock - Single Male 15 1886 Worker With Cattle On Farm Dumfriesshire,
David Bell Blacklock - - Male 13 1888 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jean Blacklock - - Female 11 1890 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Janet Blacklock - - Female 8 1893 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Bessie Blacklock - - Female 7 1894 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Kate Blacklock - - Female 5 1896 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Alexander Gordon Blacklock - - Male 4 1897 - Dumfriesshire,
Kate Anderson - - Female 12 1889 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jane Fallon - - Female 22 1879 General Domestic Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2017 16:44

2 John Fallon's born 1903 in Scotland.

However if he was born Fallon then parents not married at the time OR are you saying that John Fallon are his Christian names and he was John Fallon Blackstock??

EDIT - see later - surname would seem to be BLACKLOCK not Blackstock

FALLON
JOHN
M
1903
570/ 119
Lochwinnoch (this is Renfrewshire)

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FALLON
JOHN
M
1903
820/ 35
Dryfesdale

EDIT - second one looks more likely given 1901 census address

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2017 16:59

1871 for the Fallen family (pre Jane's birth) but note surname of sister in law. Not seeing a marriage for Michael and Helen. Jane appears on the next census x 2 with family

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Port Street, Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michel Fallen Head Married Male 28 1843 Mariner Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Helen Fallen Wife Married Female 30 1841 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Margaret Fallen Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Helen Fallen Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Thomas Fallen Son - Male 1 1870 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Mary E Scott Sister-In-Law - Female 25 1846 Cotton Weaver Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2017 17:16

Have done a fair bit of editing here - I had written it all out before, but didn't submit before wandering off elsewhere !!

Adam's ( if 1876) birth - so surname BLACKLOCK not Blackstock looking at this and census info.,

Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name Image View
BLACKLOCK ADAM M 1876 820/ 50 Dryfesdale

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EDIT
This is probably him in 1881 -

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sydney Place, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 38 1843 Shepherd Johnstone, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elizh Blacklock Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Margt Blacklock Daughter - Female 12 1869 Scholar Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jessie Blacklock Daughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elizh Blacklock Daughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Brydekirk, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Annie Blacklock Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock Son - Male 4 1877 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Chas Blacklock Son - Male 2 1879 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Mary Blacklock Daughter - Female 0 1881 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland

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?Marriage of parents

BLACKLOCK ADAM Elizabeth VIVERS 1867 841/ 18 18

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2017 17:50

Seems to be an assortment between 'Stock and Lock' in 'Search All Member Trees'...

Looking around on google search, Adam Blacklock/Elizabeth Vivers for Parents of 1876.

Chris :)

Edits (in case Neil isn't aware of 'Search' All Member Trees)

(top right of page, here, under 'Search, to see if other Genes Member are sharing)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:11

There seems to be a lot of confusion over the parents- the Adam Blacklock on that 1901 was born c1883 and isn't the 1876 birth (with mother Elizabeth Vivers).

This is 'our' Blacklock family in 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
South Corrielaw, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 37 1854 Farmer Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Blacklock Wife Married Female 36 1855 Farmers Wife Dumfriesshire, Scotland
William Blacklock Son Unmarried Male 10 1881 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Stewart Blacklock Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Graham Blacklock Son - Male 5 1886 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
David Blacklock Son - Male 2 1889 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jean Blacklock Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jean Blacklock Sister Unmarried Female 21 1870 Kitchen Maid Dumfriesshire,
William Blacklock Brother Unmarried Male 25 1866 Railway Porter Dumfriesshire,
Robert McCall Servant Unmarried Male 15 1876 Shepherd Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jane Kennedy Servant Unmarried Female 25 1866 Dairymaid Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Jean Cowan Servant Unmarried Female 14 1877 Nurse (Dom Servt) Dumfriesshire, Scotland
James Dawson Servant Unmarried Male 42 1849 Farm Serv Cattleman -
Alexander Gardiner Servant Unmarried Male 17 1874 Agl Labr Midlothian, Scotland
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This is the 1876 Adam (not 'ours') in 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 48 1843 Shepherd (Unemployed) Johnstone, Dumfriesshire
Elizabeth Blacklock Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Brydekirk, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Margaret Blacklock Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1869 Dressmaker Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Charles Blacklock Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Mary Blacklock Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
John J Blacklock Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Grace Blacklock Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland


AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:14

Our Adam born in 1882- parent's marriage:

GRAHAM ELIZABETH
BLACKLOCK ADAM
year:1880
820/ 7 Dryfesdale
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Adam's birth:
BLACKLOCK ADAM 1882

831/ 11 Hutton and Corrie

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:24

I suspect our Adam (born 1882) went to Canada- he travels to and fro quite a bit. This passenger list has a DOB:

First name(s) Adam
Last name Blacklock
Gender Male
Birth 29-06- 1882
Occupation FARMER
Departure year 1955
Departure day 20
Departure month 4
Departure port Glasgow
Destination port Montreal
Destination MONTREAL
Country Canada
Destination country Canada
UK address: Eastriggs, Dumfriesshire
Ship name Captain Cook
Ship master's first name A
Ship master's last name BANKIER
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA

There's probably more on Ancestry worldwide that might confirm- but I don't have sub for that.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2017 18:27

So it's Lock, not Stock then, (lol, and nearly got that the wrong way round)

Chris :)

(ducks head here quick, in case AQ throws something at me!!)


http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=46742

Name: BLACKLOCK, ADAM
Regimental Number: 4100986
Date of Birth: 29/06/1882
Place of Birth : Huttton and Corries, Dumfrieshire, Scotland
Father: Adam Blacklock

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:33

Hehe- and two smoking barrels!

Chris- the closest thing I have to hand is a glass of wine- so no worries, the wine's going nowhere! (apart from my mouth)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2017 18:34

Might just need barrels if this isn't right, lol...

(WW1, added above)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:36

Chris- that's a great find. So it looks to be our man scooting off to Canada.

However- how does Neil know that Adam fathered John Fallon??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2017 18:38

Need more input from Neil, I think...

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Jan 2017 18:40

It looks like Jane married a George Johnstone in 1905:

Marriage:

JOHNSTONE GEORGE
FALLON JANE SCOTT

Year: 1905

Ref: 820/ 10

Entry Number: 10

Place: Dryfesdale

Yes- more info needed


:-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2017 20:56

??
Listed as Returning Canadian

Going to Black Diamond, Alta (Alta under Province - so presume Alberta).

Ticked as having been in Canada before in 1913 in Sask (? Saskatchewan) and Alta for 4 years and says Yes to Intending to live in Canada permanently. Says Retired.

Name: Adam Blacklock
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birth Country: Scotland
Date of Arrival: 31 Mar 1914
Vessel: Athenia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Athenia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St Johns, Newfoundland, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jan 2017 21:03

AusinQ's report at 1824 has the UK address in 1955 as 22 The Rand, Eastriggs. Noted that passport declares him as Canadian.

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??
No further info.

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

First name(s) Adam
Last name Blacklock
Gender Male
Age 26
Birth year 1884
Marital status S
Occupation FARMER
Departure year 1910
Departure day 30
Departure month 4
Departure port Glasgow
Destination port Montreal
Destination MONTREAL
Country Canada
Destination country Canada
Ship name Cassandra
Ship official number 124130
Ship master's first name JOHN
Ship master's last name MITCHELL
Shipping line DONALDSON
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 31560
Ship registered tonnage 5228
Number of passengers 1076