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John Harry Gill

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Andrew

Andrew Report 12 Apr 2017 21:26

Looking for any info on the military service of John Harry Gill born Tipton Staffordshire 1871. He may have joined the Grenadier Guards in 1889. I cannot find him on 1891 or 1901 census. He married Lily Mary Bell in London in 1899 and she is on 1901 census on her own. They are both in 1911.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Andy

PatW

PatW Report 12 Apr 2017 21:33

John Harry Gill
British Army Service Records
Collections from
Great Britain
Birth Year
1869
Birth Country
England
Birth Parish
Tipton
Regiment
Grenadier Guards
Series
WO 97
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Andrew

Andrew Report 12 Apr 2017 21:42

Yess thats him!

Thank you. Is there any additional info like dates in the records please?

Andy

safc

safc Report 12 Apr 2017 21:44



British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

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First name(s) John Harry
Last name Gill
Birth year 1869
Birth parish Tipton
Birth town Tipton
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth country England
Service number 2043
Regiment Grenadier Guards
Year 1889
Attestation date 30 Sep 1889
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months 2
Attestation service number 2043
Attestation corps Grenadier Guards
Discharge corps Grenadier Guards
Document type Attestation
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference WO 97
Box 4932
Box record number 115
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

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safc

safc Report 12 Apr 2017 21:51

he was in africa 18-3-00 till 24-4-01

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Apr 2017 10:21

Thank you for the extra info. Clears up why he isn't on the census.

Andy

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Apr 2017 12:20

Some further info

Joined at London, aged 20 year 2 months, was a Carpenter. Previously belonged to 4th Battn South Staffs Militia. Wesleyan. 5' 9 ¼ in 139 lbs, chest 35 ½ inches. Fresh complexion, blue eyes, brown hair. Attested 24.9.1889 3rd Battn Guards

Extended to complete 7 years with colours and reached rank of Sergeant. To Army reserve 24 Sept 1896. Recalled to service 20.12.1899 2nd Battn GG and posted as Sergeant 26.12.99. To Army reserve again 26.1.1902 and discharged 23.9.02

Parents John and Mary Ann of New Road, Ocker Hill, Tipton

South African Campaign - awarded South Africa Medal with claps for Wittebergen and Cape Colony

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Apr 2017 14:18

Thank you greyghost, most useful info. Has the correct parents but added a couple of years to his age.

Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Apr 2017 15:12

Cape Colony
A clasp inscribed "Cape Colony" will be granted to all troops in Cape Colony at any time between October 11th, 1899, and a date to be hereafter fixed, who received no clasp for an action already specified in the Cape Colony nor Natal clasps

Wittebergen
A clasp inscribed "Wittebergen" will be granted to all troops who were inside a line drawn from Harrismith to Bethlehem, thence to Senekal and Clocolan, along the Basuto border, and back to Harrismith, between July 1st and 29th, 1900, both dates inclusive.