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Marj

Marj Report 4 Jun 2017 07:22

Hi,I am a new member and live in Australia.Iwas wondering if there is someone in Canada who would be kind enough to look up Alexander John Wilson,born/baptised/registered?1813 in Halifax Nova Scotia.Parents are James Wilson and ?Margaret Harper.Thanking you with all my heart.Marj

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Jun 2017 07:32

Have you tried Family Search site

:-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Jun 2017 07:35

A tree on ancestry has this
Alexander John Wilson
Birth: 8 Jun 1812 - Canada
Marriage: 11 Oct 1843 - Old Machar, Aberdeen (Aberdeenshire), Scotland
Death: 7 May 1886 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Spouse: Jane Wilson


Actual record

Name: Alexander John Wilson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 11 Oct 1843
Marriage Place: Old Machar,Aberdeen,Scotland
Spouse: Jane Taylor
FHL Film Number: 991250

As it's parish records the father is probably not listed

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Jun 2017 07:38

1851 Scottish census
Alexander John Wilson
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relationship: Head
Spouse: Jane Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Halefare, north american british subject
Parish Number: 426
Civil Parish: Dysart
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Dysart
County: Fife
Address: South Street
Occupation: Police Officer & Sheriff Officer
ED: 3
Page: 12
Household schedule number: 64
LINE: 19
Roll: CSSCT1851_88
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander John Wilson 38
Jane Wilson 29
Alexander John Wilson 6
Marjory Taylor Wilson 4
Jane Walker Wilson. 2

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Jun 2017 07:44

VIEW 1861 England Census

Name: Alexander J Wilson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Booa Scocia, Northamptonshire, England
[Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada]
[North America, Nova Scotia]
Civil Parish: Etterby
Ecclesiastical parish: Stanwix
Town: Etterby
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:Eden town

Occupation:railway clerk

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: Stanwix
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 3922
Folio: 26
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander J Wilson 48
Jane Wilson 39
Alexander Wilson 16
Marjory Wilson 14
John W Wilson 12
John T Wilson 10
James J Wilson 6
Charles J Wilson 2
Mary A Wilson 2/12

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Jun 2017 07:48

1871 census
Name: Alexander J Wilson
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, United States
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 4556
Folio: 151
Page Number: 6
Occ Railway clearing house inspector
Address 27 Beckett Street
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander J Wilson 58
Jane Wilson 48
Alexander J Wilson 26
Jane Walker Wilson 21
James J Wilson 16
Charles Josk Wilson 13

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jun 2017 08:41

You should be able to download the original Scottish records from
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Which is a pay to view site.

There are 2 entries for the marriage, 7 Oct 1843 Inverurie & 11 Oct 1843 Old Machar.
One of them might be the equivalent of banns.

The quoted death cert is there

Wilson
ALEXANDER JOHN
74
1886
644/12 361
Gorbals

6 credits to view.

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jun 2017 09:26

Welcome to genesreunited, Marj.

Could you confirm that you wanted any birth information for him in Halifax, Nova Scotia?

Do you know how or when he arrived in Scotland?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2017 12:24

He doesn't seem to be on the 1841 census (unless he slipped through the net, or the transcription is wrong), so presumably he arrived in Scotland 1841 - 1843.

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jun 2017 12:46

Had a look at the marriage document from Old Machar Parish

Alexander John Wilson Rural Constabulary Force Inverury and Jane Taylor Canal Terrace Woodside in this Parish, signified their purpose of marriage, by Mr wiliam Rust, Elder and being thrice proclaimed they were married on 11th October 1843 by the Revd Alexander Spence, Minister of Free Church of St Clements

*Inverury - previous spelling for Inverurie - to which it was changed when post was by mistake going to Inverary in Argyll

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jun 2017 12:49

Wondering if he returned with family to their roots - e.g. Father discharged from Army??

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2017 15:35

On the other hand -

There are a couple of other Alexander Wilsons who fit the bill :

Alexander Willson
in the 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Alexander Willson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 69
Birth Year: 1812
Birthplace: Nova Scotia
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)
Occupation: Farmer
Province: Nova Scotia
District Number: 22
District: Cumberland
Sub-District Number: L
Subdistrict: Parrsboro
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Willson 69
Eunice Willson 72
Sofiar King 29
Duglas King 6


Also -


Alexander Wilson
in the 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Alexander Wilson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 68
Birth Year: 1813
Birthplace: Nova Scotia
Religion: Presbyterian
Nationality: Ld Scotch (Scotish)
Occupation: Mason
Province: Nova Scotia
District Number: 20
District: Pictou
Sub-District Number: R
Subdistrict: Little Harbour
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Wilson 68
Alexr... Wilson 31
Catherine Wilson 29
William Wilson 25
Christy B. Wilson 21
Mary C. Wilson 17
David A Wilson 5


I wonder where Marj found the names of her Alexander's parents?
The tree on Ancestry, on which we've been basing the research so far, doesn't give any proof of parents' names. It also lists, as well as Alexander, born c 1813 in Nova Scotia, a sister Helen, born c 1813 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland.

However, per SP, this will be that Helen - different parents:

WILSON
HELEN
JAMES WILSON/MARGT. ROBSON
0
08/08/1812
151/
10 428
Deskford

So I wouldn't trust the tree too much.

There is a son (James - below) for parents called James Wilson and Margaret Harper, but he's not mentioned on the tree. Of course, they may be a different couple - or Alexander's parents may not be James and Margaret at all:

WILSON
JAMES
JAMES WILSON/MARGARET HARPER
0
31/12/1810
168/A
110 7
Aberdeen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2017 15:45

SP shows no marriage of a James Wilson to a Margaret Robson. There's only one to a Jean or Janet Robson in Fraserburgh area in 1792.

And no marriage to a Margaret Harper.

Only one to a Jean Harper in Kilmaurs in 1805, and one to another Jean Harper (unless there's a mistake in the transcription of the date) in 1806 in Kilmarnock

EDIT:
Of course, that doesn't mean there was no such marriage - just that there's no record of it.

EDIT again:

There's a James Wilson / Margaret Harper in 1735 in Ayrshire - but clearly not the same couple!

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2017 15:53

FS has this birth. Has someone got this child mixed up with another (much later) Alexander born / baptised in Nova Scotia in 1813??

Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name Alexr. Wilson
Gender Male
Christening Date 16 Sep 1750
Christening Place CAIRNIE BY HUNTLY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 16 Sep 1750
Father's Name James Wilson
Mother's Name Margaret Harper


Just possibly this couple, with wife's name different (or mistranscribed) ??

WILSON
JAMES
MARY HARPER/FR276 (FR276)
01/12/1748
178/
10 260
Cairnie

Marj did put a question mark against Margaret's name.

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Jun 2017 20:41

Finishing off the census details for this couple. My, they did move about a bit.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Park Avenue, Gorton, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander J Wilson Head Married Male 68 1813 District Insp Of Railway Clearing House United States
Transcription
Jane Wilson Wife Married Female 58 1823 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
Charles J Wilson Son Married Male 23 1858 Auctioneers Clerk Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Transcription
Isabella Wilson Daughter In Law Married Female 19 1862 - Belfast, Antrim, Ireland
Transcription
John F Savile Son In Law Married Male 25 1856 Commission Agent Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Jane Savile Daughter Married Female 31 1850 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
Jane E Savile Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Marj

Marj Report 4 Jun 2017 23:29

Thank you all so much.The info I have from family is Alexander(1813) was the district inspector of railways as in 1881 census.He married Jane Taylor Walker in 1843,1st Born Alexander James B1845 + my Great grandfather was James Joss -3rd born.What I know for sure is that Alexander Snr was born in Halifax NS about 1813 but am dubious re parents are Margaret Harper and James Wilson(don't know who found this when doing their family tree)but I have hit a brick wall unless I can find Halifax birth records and they elusive.Family are Catholic.I don't know when or why they went to Canada, where they lived,or when returned but all originated in and around Aberdeen.My Grandma Marjory Jane birth extract shows 1883 district of Gorbals,county of Lanark.Just need to ascertain Alexander's parents.Military crossed my mind.History has it we are somehow connected to Cree First Nation People.Trying to ascertain this before I kick the Bucket.Marj

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Jun 2017 00:22

1861 Census
Piece: RG9/3922 Place: Stanwix -Cumberland Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Etterby Ecclesiastical Parish: Stanwix
Folio: 26 Page: 2 Schedule: 8
Address: Eden Town
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WILSON Alexander J Head M M 48 Railway Lab Overseas - British - America, Nova Scotia
WILSON Jane Wife M F 39 Scotland - -
WILSON Alexander Son U M 16 Scholar Scotland - -
WILSON Marjory Dau U F 14 Scholar Scotland - -
WILSON Jane W Dau - F 12 Scholar Scotland - -
WILSON John T Son - M 10 Scholar Scotland - -
WILSON James J Son - M 6 Scholar Northumberland - Berwick Upon Tweed
WILSON Charles J Son - M 2 Cumberland - Carlisle
WILSON Mary B Dau - F 2m Cumberland - Stanwix


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WILSON, JAMES JOSS TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED UNION Volume 10B Page 272

WILSON, CHARLES JOSEPH TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 10B Page 397

WILSON, MARY BRISTOL TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 10B Page 407

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Jun 2017 07:49

Is there an 1813-ish birth/baptism record with the GRO in their regimental records or army chaplains returns?

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Jun 2017 10:39

PM form Marj

I have on one family tree that Jane Taylor Walker born 15/05/1814 but unsure if correct.They were catholic but don't know if this is of any help.I am unsure who is doing this family tree.Her father was David Walker and mother Jean Taylor I believe.Thank you for all your help. Marj

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Marriage document gives her name only as Jane Taylor.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2017 15:47

The 1843 marriage wasn't a Roman Catholic marriage.

It's listed as a Church of Scotland marriage on SP, and the details posted earlier by Greyghost say it was a Free Church marriage - both Presbyterian.

There is no RC marriage on SP's church register records, between an Alexander Wilson and anyone named either Taylor or Walker.