Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

New posts
No new posts
Thread closed
Stickied, new posts
Stickied, no new posts

Page 0 + 1 of 2

Profile	Posted by	Options	Post Date
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 11 Send Message	David	Report	16 Aug 2017 15:57
	Trying to get more information on my Great great Grandmother, Harriet Murphey. I have worked out from her marriage cert that she was born in 1842. she married Wiliam Wagstaff of Staffordshire On the Marriage certificate, it states her Father as Unknown... I cannot find the birth record or any census records with her on it until after her marriage. she was married in Biddulph Staffordshire I was given the name of Maria Murphy as her mother's name. it's a long shot but any help would do
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:35
	?? MURPHY, HARRIET (No Father named) GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 17 Page 90
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,377 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:36
	only one on fmp 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Blakeney Woodside, Awre, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Aaron Miles Male 55 1786 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Sarah Miles Female 50 1791 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Hannah Miles Female 13 1828 Gloucestershire, England Transcription George Miles Male 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Edward Murphey Male 40 1801 - Transcription Charlotte Murphey Female 25 1816 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Charlotte Murphey Female 5 1836 Ireland Transcription Mary Murphey Female 3 1838 Ireland Transcription Harriet Murphey Female 0 1841 -
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:36
	Marriage reference... Chris :) Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1860 WAGSTAFF William MURPHY Harriet Wolstanton, St Margaret Newcastle-Under-Lyme http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1841 MURPHY Harriet Newcastle-under-Lyme Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:42
	???? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 53, Fletcher Street, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Francis Murphey Head Married Male 61 1790 Hat Dyer Ireland Transcription Mary Murphey Wife Married Female 53 1798 - Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Maria Kinnersly Daughter Married Female 28 1823 Silk Peicer Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Transcription Jane Kinnersly Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1827 Silk Peicer Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Francis Kinnersly Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Tailor Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription George Kinnersly Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Silk Peicer Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary Am Kinnersly Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Harriet Murphy Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:43
	Harriet Wagstaff England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Harriet Wagstaff Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Madeley, Staffordshire, England Enumeration District 20 Gender Female Age 29 Marital Status Married Relationship to Head of Household Wife Birth Year (Estimated) 1842 Birthplace Newcastle, Staffordshire Entry Number 16 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/2834/0177 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William Wagstaff Head M 37 Burslem, Staffordshire Harriet Wagstaff Wife F 29 Newcastle, Staffordshire Frances Emma Wagstaff Daughter F 7 Newcastle, Staffordshire Harriet Wagstaff Daughter F 3 Madeley, Staffordshire Elizabeth A Wagstaff Daughter F 0 Madeley, Staffordshire
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:44
	???? Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%) Burn William Newcastle Lyme 17 131 DOWNS Emma Newcastle Lyme 17 131 HURLSTON Thomas Newtle Lyme 17 131 KINNERSLY John Newcastle L 17 131 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MORGAN Caroline Newcastle L 17 131 MURPHY Maria Newcastle L 17 131 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Underwood Prudence Newcastle Lyme 17 131 Walker Enoch Newcastle L 17 131
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:46
	Staffordshire marriages Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Maria Last name Murphy Age Of Full Age Marriage year 1845 Marriage date 09 Dec 1845 Marriage place Newcastle under Lyme, St George Denomination Anglican Residence Lower Green Father's first name(s) Francis Father's last name Murphy Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Kinnersly Spouse's age Of Full Age Spouse's residence Shoreditch Spouse's father's first name(s) William Spouse's father's last name Kinnersly County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D3411/2/1 Page 136 Register type Marriage Record set Staffordshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:53
	(perhaps relates) Chris :) 06 August 1853 - Staffordshire Advertiser - Stafford, Staffordshire, England NEWCASTLE Henry Banks, a labourer, for an assault on Maria Kinnersley, was ordered to pay a fine amounting with costs to 10s. 6d. The assault consisted in the defendant, on whose behalf Mr Slaney appeared, laying hold of the complainant by the throat.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:54
	Who were the witnesses to the marriage?
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 16:58
	witnessess maria kinnersley thomas barr ??? can't read his full name
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:00
	(no idea on below, just looking at things Newcastle!, others on link might relate also) Chris :) County Staffordshire Place Newcastle-under-Lyme Church name St Giles Register type Parish Register Register entry number 149 Marriage date 03 Feb 1820 Groom forename Francis Groom surname MURPHY Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Newcastle-under-Lyme Groom parish Newcastle-under-Lyme Groom occupation Private in the 90th Regt of Foot Bride forename Mary Bride surname WHITAKER Bride condition spinster Bride abode Newcastle-under-Lyme Bride parish Newcastle-under-Lyme Witness Owen MURPHY Witness William HILL Register note By Banns. Bride, Groom and 1st witness made their mark thus X. https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:05
	Maria Kennerson in the 1861 England Census Name: Maria Kennerson Age: 38 Estimated birth year: 1823 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Newcastle under Lyme County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme Sub-registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Piece: 1916 Folio: 147 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Maria Kennerson 38 Thomas Kennerson 7 Alfred Kennerson 4 Harriett Kennerson 19****** Daughter William Kennerson 24 FMP version.... 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fletcher Street, Newcastle under Lyme, Newcastle-Under-Lyme, Staffordshire, England Maria Kennerson Head Married Female 38 1823 ... Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Thomas Kennerson Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Alfred Kennerson Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Harriett Waylett Daughter Married Female 19 1842 - Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England William Waylett Son In Law Married Male 24 1837 - Burslem, Staffordshire, England
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:11
	Safc........Maria Kinnersley is the witness i was hoping for.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:13
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fletcher Street, Newcastle under Lyme, Newcastle-Under-Lyme, Staffordshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Maria Kennerson Head Married Female 38 1823 ... Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Thomas Kennerson Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Alfred Kennerson Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 Scholar Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription Harriett Waylett Daughter Married Female 19 1842 - Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England Transcription William Waylett Son In Law Married Male 24 1837 - Burslem, Staffordshire, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:20
	WAGSTAFF, FRANCES EMMA MURPHEY GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 06B Page 60
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:22
	WAGSTAFF, HARRIET MURPHY GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE -UNDER-LYME Volume 06B Page 56
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	16 Aug 2017 17:24
	???? Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MURPHY, THOMAS - Order GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 17 Page 105
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Aug 2017 19:02
	Hi David If you check out the image of the 1861 census.......the writing is a bit difficult to read but, Harriet and William's surname does look more like "Wagstaff" and not "Waylett" It would seem then that Harriet was the illegitimate daughter of Maria Murphy. Prickles ;o))
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 11 Send Message	David	Report	16 Aug 2017 21:31
	I think you have cracked it for me . Maria kinnersley nee Murphy was a witness at Harriet's marriage I have the marriage certificate to prove that. Maria was not married when Harriet was born but did get married very soon after because she is Maria kinnersley on the census What do you think ?

All Categories

Popular Searches

Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

Boards

Quick Search

Single word search

Tools

Icons

Harriet Murphey