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Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:35
	The above found tonight in 1939 register. Got her in 1911 as Beaty Wiseman 41 widow, 3 children, Anne Ellen 17, Joseph 15 and Agnes Louisa 5, Would like the 1901 census for them please, I have looked but can't find it.Husband should be George Henry Wiseman in the 1901. Also the marriage says George Henry Wiseman to Betsy Hawley in Dec qtr 1886 at Melton Mowbray NOT Betsy Hart!! Am a bit confused now, would appreciate some help, thank-you. :-S
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:41
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	1911 for ref. 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Welby Lane Sysonby Melton Mowbray, Sysonby, Leicestershire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Beaty Wiseman Wife Widow Female - 41 1870 Melton Mowbray Transcription Anne Ellen Wiseman Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Bakcup Transcription Joseph Wiseman Son Single Male Newspaper Boy 15 1896 Dend Nr Mawlenstall Transcription Agnes Louisa Wiseman Daughter - Female - 5 1906 The Valley Nr Melton Mowbray Transcription Mary Ellen Burbage - - Female - 2 1909 Scalford Nr Melton Mowbray Transcription Fred Thickett Assistant Lodger Married Male Pipe Moulder 53 1858 Tapton Nr Chesterfield
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:44
	Yes, that's the one.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:45
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	For information 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Welby Lane Sysonby Melton Mowbray, Sysonby, Leicestershire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Beaty Wiseman Wife Widow Female - 41 1870 Melton Mowbray Anne Ellen Wiseman Daughter Single Female - 17 1894 Bakcup Joseph Wiseman Son Single Male Newspaper Boy 15 1896 Dend Nr Mawlenstall Agnes Louisa Wiseman Daughter - Female - 5 1906 The Valley Nr Melton Mowbray Mary Ellen Burbage - - Female - 2 1909 Scalford Nr Melton Mowbray Fred Thickett Assistant Lodger Married Male Pipe Moulder 53 1858 Tapton Nr Chesterfield Has mistakenly completed married 24 years, 8 children born - 4 still living, 4 have died Mawlenstall probably reads Rawtenstall (Lancs)
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:46
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: WISEMAN, AGNES LOUISA HAWLEY Order GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in MELTON MOWBRAY Volume 07A Page 322 Occasional Copy: A
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:47
	thank-you Greyghost
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,496 Send Message	England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription First name(s) GEORGE HENRY Last name WISEMAN Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1886 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ GEORGE HENRY WISEMAN married one of these people Elizabeth Dickinson, Betsy Hawley District Melton Mowbray District number - County Leicestershire Country England Volume 7A Page 588
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:52
	Thank-you
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:53
	Re the Betsy in 1939 as posted earlier, http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367705 I have just checked the image and it does say Hart but I don't know that she is connected? just at that same address. As Hart is her married name it wouldn't appear to be Betsy Wiseman nee Hawley . 1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION Durrance Household (5 People) Norcldi , East Retford R.D., Nottinghamshire, England ( looks more like Noveldi for house name on image?) George H Durrance 05 Sep 1892 Male General Labourer Road Work N C C Married 149 1 Annie E Durrance 08 Sep 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 149 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Florence L Cooper (Durrance) 06 Jan 1930 Female At School Single 149 4 Betsy Hart 26 Aug 1871 Female Incapacitated Widowed 149 5
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Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Aug 2017 22:58
	Might be this Betsy on the 1939 ?? Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%) HART William Thomas E. Retford 7b 14 SMITH Betsy E. Retford 7b 14
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:02
	Field Value County Nottinghamshire Place (link for place information) East Retford Church name St Swithun Register type Parish Register Register entry number 81 Marriage date 26 Feb 1901 Groom forename William Thomas Groom surname HART Groom age 36 Groom condition widower Groom abode Donisthorpe Groom occupation Blacksmiths Striker Bride forename Betsy Bride surname SMITH Bride age 37 Bride condition spinster Bride abode East Retford Groom father forename Thomas Groom father surname HART Groom father occupation Labourer Bride father forename George (deceased) Bride father surname SMITH Bride father occupation Butler Witness Mary A GILL Witness George Alfred SMITH Register note By banns Transcriber notes
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:03
	Thank-you, will check again, but was told her Granny's name was definatley Hart on her Mothers side.
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:05
	Teresa why have you deleted the other thread? Now anything on it of use has to be looked up again.
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Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:09
	Just noticed the Betsy Hart on 1939 reg was born in 1871 so the above could be her as she was 37 when she married in 1901, so would have been born around 1863.
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:10
	I have not deleted anything!!
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:13
	just checked, everything I have asked about and received tonight is still here.
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:16
	The other thread about Durrance which I have posted the link to has gone?
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Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:17
	My apologies ! entirely my fault, the brackets I put round the link to the thread meant it came up when clicked on as "this thread does not exist" I should be more careful! :-(
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Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 1,368 Send Message	Teresa	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:19
	No problem, I am going off now, but thank-you for all your help. :-)
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	17 Aug 2017 23:20
	not finding births for joseph wiseman and anne ellen wiseman with mother Hawley WISEMAN, JOSEPH HUNT GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 682

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Betsy Hart born 26/8/1871