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Trying to find Gotlieb or Gottlieb

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Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Dec 2006 15:34

Jeanette Briody
I am trying to trace relations of my grandmother Jane Gotlieb. She was married to Jacob Psenichnikow but changed their name to Pennikoff/Penikoff (the spelling varied) I believe they originally came from Minsk in the Ukraine. I am not sure what year that was but they were living in Bethnal Green or Mile End New Town in the year 1903. I also understand that relations of this family went to Ohio in USA. I believe that a David Gotlieb/Gottlieb lived in Cincinnati

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 16 Apr 2013 12:26

I would love any information regarding David Gotlieb/Gottlieb. He lived in Cincinnati so I believe. Also David may have been his sons name. This person was my Grandmothers brother and would possibly have gone to USA in the early 1900's. I understand they family came from Russia possibly the Ukraine.

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 12:57

We need some birth years, please

Helen

Helen Report 16 Apr 2013 13:00


1911 England Census about Jane Penikoff
Name: Jane Penikoff
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Russia
Civil parish: Mile End New Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Osborn House, Pelham St, Brick Lane
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9
Estimated Marriage Year: 1902
Registration district: Whitechapel
Registration District Number: 18
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 1473
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Penikoff 34
Jane Penikoff 35
Judia Penikoff 8
Sam Penikoff 2
Rachel Penikoff 6
Goulda Penikoff 0

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 13:02

Are THESE your people?

1911 census


Person: PENIKOFF, Jacob Address: 6 Osborn House Pelham Street

PENIKOFF, Jacob Head Married9 years M 34 1877 Furriers Cutter Russia Res VIEW
PENIKOFF, Jane Wife Married9 years F 35 1876 Russia Res VIEW
PENIKOFF, Judia Son Single M 8 1903 London Whitechapel VIEW
PENIKOFF, Sam Son M 2 1909 London Whitechapel VIEW
PENIKOFF, Rachel Daughter F 6 1905 London Whitechapel VIEW
PENIKOFF, Goulda Daughter F 4 1907 London Whitechapel

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 13:03

It would be a good idea to add USA to your title...........

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Apr 2013 13:30

Judia Penikoff
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London Whitechapel, London
census: 1911 Mile End New Town, , London, England

Sam Penikoff
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London Whitechapel, London
census: 1911 Mile End New Town, , London, England

Rachel Penikoff
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London Whitechapel, London
census: 1911 Mile End New Town, , London, England

Goulda Penikoff
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: London Whitechapel, London
census: 1911 Mile End New Town, , London, England

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 16 Apr 2013 19:04

To Reggie, Helen and AnnCardiff
Yes this is my family. All I know is that they arrived in England before 1903. I don't know what ship or port they arrived at. Jane was my grandmother married to Jacob Penikoff. Her maiden name was Gotlieb, hence her brother David Gotlieb. Also I am not sure where they were born, but Jacob's name was Psenichnikow, it was changed to Penikoff sometime before the 1911 census.
All very complicated. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for your help.
Regards Jeanette

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 19:21

This is only a possible for David, but birth isn't Russian. Having said that I think Gottlieb sounds more German than Russian.

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: David Gottlieb
Age: 43
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1920: Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889 [1888]
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Gaehr Gottlieb
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Name: Jacobea Gottlieb
Mother's Birthplace: Switzerland
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members:
Name Age
Gaehr Gottlieb 75
Jacobea Gottlieb 78
M J Gottlieb 46
David Gottlieb 43 - mechanical engineer

All were naturalised 1894

There are Russian David Gottliebs in Chicago

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 19:27

Looks like I'm wrong about Gottlieb being more German:

Galicia, Ukraine, Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1789-1905
Name: David Gottlieb
Event Type: Birth
Birth Year: 1875
Birth City: Sambor

(This isn't necessarily your David, just a record I came across)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 19:32

To be honest, with so little to go on and when there is more than one person of that name it's not easy.