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David ******* I am trying to locate them on 1901 to see if any have a Rosetta. Have you checked the BMD images (complete) to try and locate a birth certificate for Rosetta yet ? free on Ancestry Pen x ***UPDATE Just checking this image on 1901 to confirm surname... Name: Rosetta Barrett Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Alfred Mother's name: Annie Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 259 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Barrett 27 abt 1874 Bethnal green Annie Barrett 24 Rosetta Barrett 2 No reads Barrett or Berrett

I'm sure any of these are likely, only way to verify them would be to find them with Rosetta in 1901 as I have no names/places to compare them against.. David.

David ******* Now trying to find Alfred 1859, bethnal green. Name: Alfred Bellett Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Church ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 248 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Bellett 2 abt 1859 Bethnal Green Joseph Bellett 26 abt 1835 Bethnal Green Head Joseph Bellett 4 abt 1857 Bethnal Green Son Sarah Bellett 24 abt 1837 Bethnal Green Wife ************************* Just found another possible Alfred on the 1871 census Name: Alfred Bellett Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's name: Wlliam Mother's name: Selina Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 175 Household Members: Name Age Ada Bellett 8 months abt 1870 Cardeff, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Alfred Bellett 8 abt 1863 Bristol Son Selina Bellett 34 abt 1837 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Wife Selina Ellen Bellett 4 abt 1867 Bristol Daughter William Bellett 11 abt 1860 Bristol Son Wlliam Bellett 35 abt 1836 Bristol Head ************************************************************************** and also on 1871 Name: Alfred H Bellott Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's name: Alfred Mother's name: Maria Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Mary Stratford Le Bow Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Bow County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bow ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Bellott 23 abt 1848 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Alfred H Bellott 5 abt 1866 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Chas Bellott 3 months abt 1871 Old Ford, Middlesex, England Son Elizth M Bellott 6 abt 1865 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Emma Bellott 2 abt 1869 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Maria Bellott 25 abt 1846 Hford, Essex, England Wife So this is the one that married Charlotte... Will delete the dead ends shortly

Hi Pen I wonder if you could help me again!!!!! I am looking for Charles Firth b.1882c. Bradford area. Married to Ann/Annie. His parents are Walter Firth and Elizabeth ??? Dont know her maiden name. I cant find them anywhere. Could you please have a look at census? Thank you so much Jackie

Hi Pen, Would you be kind enough to see if you can find a Joshua NUDD born about 1845 in Hickling Norfolk. on the 1851, 1861. 1871 1891 census I have him married to a Charity in the 1881 census. Thanks ever so much in anticipation Judith

I found that Alfred and Charlotte had a son George in 1900 so not them.....

Found a possible marriage - Name: Alfred Henry Bellett Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Islington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 311 (click to see others on page) Charlotte Emma Ashby 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Alfred Henry Bellett 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Evelina Bicknell 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Arthur Blackaby 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Arthur Blakaby 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Alfred 1843 had 11 children, no Rosetta.....

David ******* No worries, your not a pain. I have been trying to locate some possible fathers (hoping to gain their birthplaces etc) From the 1891 - Alfred Bellett born c 1881 bethnal green Alfred Bellett born c 1877 bromley (this one seems more likely) Alfred Bellett born c1843 Bethnal Green (very doubtful) Alfred John Bellett born c1874 Southampton, Hampshire Pen x working on the Bromley chap now.. UPDATE *** Can't find him on the 1901 census, but this looks his death entry on the BMD Name: Alfred Bellett Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Year of Registration: 1903 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 26 District: Elham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 712 (click to see others on page)

Penelope, just updated my previous, sorry to be a pain!

David ******* I will take another look for you, but I don't hold out much hope I'm afraid. Pen x

Pen, I have found these two before and discounted them for the following reasons........ Rosetta L Bellett's father's name Reuben. The other Rosetta I think father's name Charles but doesn't show her middle initial. Another GR member has them both in her tree and her other details don't seem to match Can you trace an ALFRED BELLETT b.1859 Bethnal Green, son of Joseph H Bellett and Sarah F Walker and see where he was in 1901? Also theres an ALFRED BELLETT b.1876 in Bromley?

Penelope, I have looked through BMD but no luck. My info comes from her son and her death cert. from 5th Feb 1953, shows her age as 53 and her fathers name. She never married. Her son thinks she may have had two sisters auntie Mags (Margaret?) and auntie Nell or Nellie but no memory of uncles, also he thinks she would have been the eldest so don't think you'll find them on census David....

Added by David Evans on 17/01/2007 12:32:23 Hi Penelope, Can I take up your kind offer to do 1901 census lookups. I'm affraid I don't have much to go on, I'm looking for a ROSETTA BELLETT born abt.1899 father's name ALFRED BELLETT. She lived in Islington in the 1930s so would think she was born/lived in N. London. Thanks for your time, David.... ************************************************************************* Work in progress, lol. 1901 ...possible Name: Ross Berrett Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Alfred Mother's name: Laura Gender: Female Where born: Staines, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Staines Ecclesiastical parish: Staines St Mary Town: Staines County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Staines Sub-registration district: Staines ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Berrett 32 Edward Berrett 4 Frederick Berrett 3 Laura Berrett 30 Ross Berrett 5 Have looked at the image - Address - London Road, home at police station Occupation of Alfred - Police constable *************************************************** Have you checked the BMD for her birth entry ? Themost likely one that would match the above family would be this one - Name: Rosetta Louisa Bellett Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Poplar County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 653 (click to see others on page) BUT .... there is a later one... Name: Rosetta Pretoria Bellett Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bethnal Green County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 206 (click to see others on page) Have you found her death entry/cert? This will give you any middle name. Pen x

Hi Pen Sorry l was seeing to the dogs. William was born Whitehaven Cumberland 1824 l have him on the 1861 as born 1826 The Crosby born Ulverstone is his father l found that on the i.g.i. William was a sailor l wonder if he went to sea at a very young age? Pam xx

Hi Penelope, Can I take up your kind offer to do 1901 census lookups. I'm affraid I don't have much to go on, I'm looking for a ROSETTA BELLETT born abt.1899 father's name ALFRED BELLETT. She lived in Islington in the 1930s so would think she was born/lived in N. London. Thanks for your time, David....

Added by Pam Logan-Powney on 17/01/2007 12:16:01 Good afternoon Pen lf you have time could you please do a look up on the 1851/41 Cumberland William White b 1824/6 Whitehaven. Cumberland Parents Crosby and Mary Ann Hoping to find William at home with parents and siblings Thanks in advance Pam ************************************************** 1841 closest match I can find is - Crosbie White abt 1801 Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth White abt 1835 Lancashire, England Liverpool Lancashire Mary White abt 1806 Lancashire, England Liverpool Lancashire William White abt 1824 Lancashire, England Liverpool Lancashire There are no William Whites, born Cumberland in an age range of -+ 5 yrs. **************************************************** 1851 Name: Crosby White Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ulverstone, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Howard Street ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Henry Mc Kowne 5 Mary Mc Kowne 50 Patrick Mc Kowne 35 Thomas Mc Kowne 9 Crosby White 55 Henryetta White 7 **** Can you just confirm the birthplace again please Pam? Cheers Pen x ***Need to view the image regarding the birthplace....but .... 1851 Name: William White Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Single Gender: Male Where born: Whitemarrn, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Bradford Town: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford West End ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age William White 21 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2308; Folio: 182; Page: 13; GSU roll: 87520-87521. Occupation - chimney sweep ??

Good afternoon Pen lf you have time could you please do a look up on the 1851/41 Cumberland William White b 1824/6 Whitehaven. Cumberland Parents Crosby and Mary Ann Hoping to find William at home with parents and siblings Thanks in advance Pam

Pam ******** Name: Edwin Davies Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 1 Whittington Tce Occupation: Shopman Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 71a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred S. Davies 26 Caroline E. Davies 21 Charles Davies 69 Edwin Davies 28 Emma L. Davies 33 Mary Ann Davies 62 **************************************************** Hi Pam, Are you following the Davies line or are you following Susan's line? Do you have Susan's birthplace and year of birth from the marriage cert? Or is it just a possible from the BMD? **update This marriage ? Have you ruled out the other bride then? Edwin Davis 1884 Apr-May-Jun Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Frederick Arthur Fennell 1884 Apr-May-Jun Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Susan Noble Norton 1884 Apr-May-Jun Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Kate Louisa Tuck 1884 Apr-May-Jun Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex **************************************** Yep, Kate L Fennell and Fredeick A Fennell are together in the 1891 census. 1891 ... sorry can't spot any other possibles. pen x

Hello Pen Thanks for the info you sent me. I haven't any further information on him except a likely marriage to a Susan Noble Norton in Islington in 1884. That might be him With Thanks Pamela