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Zoe Here's my mystery.... A family in 1851: Joseph Eveson head greengrocer 26 London, Smithfield (my ggg-) Eliza Elizabeth Eveson wife 27 Bath, Somerset (my ggg-) Joseph Eveson son 1 Surrey, Christchurch (my gg-) Susan Beale Wife's Mother 66 former laundress Bath Somerset (my gggg-) I can't find them in 1861. Joseph (the son) appears again in 1871, married. Where on earth are they in 1861????? It's driving me mad. They're hidden somewhere with a mistranscription.... I'll mail you a Mars bar if you find any of them in 1861 :o) Alan

hello zoe i had this found on ancestry a couple of years ago rg12/73 frederick read head 50 plumber westminster london elizabeth wife 49 wife frederick son 30 printerwestminster london clara m dau in law 28 sevenoaks kent frederick j reed grandson 1 lambeth london right time right place wrong name can you see if the spelling is wrong john

Hi Zoe thanks for the offer of help. My mystery involves a missing rellie.... I am searching for a George Alfred Owen. Born abt. 1816 New Gate Street Saint Andrew Holborn Christened 17/11/1816. Parents Thomas Owen and Amelia Plank. Amelias Death cert gives George as Informant living withThomas and previously Amelia at 15 Charles Place Shadwell in January 1851. By the time the census happened on 31/3/1851 another family is living there and there is no sign of George or Thomas anywhere on the 1851 census. Thomas was born abt. 1774 and was an Engraver by trade. Thank you for any time you may give in trying to find him for me. Rachel

Joan Have looked and looked I'm just wondering if she was maybe visiting relatives in Scotalnd or something ~ I'm prob way out. But have searched all Ellen's born 1877 +/- 2 born Fulford and York and also looked under all Sharp's and Doughty's well this is a mystery!! Zo

hello zoe annie florence kemp born 23 jan 1890 father goerge robert kemp occ carman mother annie kemp formaly muliner 6 may foale cottages battersea wandsworth 1901 census ancestry rg13/454 goerge r kemp 55 cater builders carm kent penge john

OK Joan talk later!! now have found the first marriage ref Marriages Jun 1875 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bycroft Mary Ann York 9d 56 John Sharp on same page! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Marriage number 2 Marriages Jun 1880 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOUGHTY Robert Henry York 9d 112 SHARP Mary Ann York 9d 112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So Mary and Ellen have the same father then! based on birth years! Births Mar 1876 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sharp Mary York 9d 50 Zoe

Joan Do you have this~ I suppose Edith is Mary or do you think she maybe Ellen.. 17 Thomas Street Head is a Comb Grinder Ada Doughty abt 1890 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter St Nicholas Yorkshire Alice Doughty abt 1886 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter St Nicholas Yorkshire Charles Doughty abt 1881 York, Yorkshire, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Edith Doughty abt 1876 York, Yorkshire, England Daughter St Nicholas Yorkshire Frank Doughty abt 1888 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Henry Doughty abt 1883 York, Yorkshire, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Mary A Doughty abt 1851 Scotland Wife St Nicholas Yorkshire William Doughty abt 1854 York, Yorkshire, England Head St Nicholas Yorkshire

Joan Just having a look, do you have her birth cert or marriage cert. If so could you post details Thanks Zoe

Joan Could you please post the 1881 details having some prob finding them thanks Zoe

John remind me on the marriage cert remind me of address and Annie's fathers name can't seem to find your first post for looking Can you post details of Annie in census please if you have them Zo

hello zoe annie florence kemps parents on her birth cert father goerge robert kemp occ carman mother annie kemp nee muliner i thought that the frederick reed was to young on the 1901 census as well i have other frederick reeds born around the same time and area but no fathers i have a frederick reed who is the perfect match but it is spelt read he is on ancestry rg12/73 ontherg13/417 she is living with frederick(son)on the wandswort rd lambeth john

John Is this the 1901 you refer to? he is the wrong age but sometimes people fibbed! 5 Seaford Street Head a Compositor Printer Eliza F Reed abt 1842 Blackfreard, London, England Widow St Pancras London Elizabeth Reed abt 1892 Islington, London, England Daughter St Pancras London Fredk Reed abt 1863 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Head St Pancras London Fredk Reed abt 1894 Islington, London, England Son St Pancras London Reginald Reed abt 1900 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London Susan Reed abt 1862 Islington, London, England Wife St Pancras London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1901 2 Canterbury Place*Same address as marriage** Head is a general lab Annie Kemp abt 1886 Battersea, Surrey, England Daughter Battersea London Clara Kemp abt 1895 Battersea, Surrey, England Daughter Battersea London Florence Kemp abt 1899 Battersea, Surrey, England Daughter Battersea London Florence E Kemp abt 1879 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter-in-law Battersea London Rose Kemp abt 1851 Bramfield, Hampshire, England Wife Battersea London William Kemp abt 1851 Bromley, Kent, England Head Battersea London Wm C Kemp abt 1877 Penge, Surrey, England Son Battersea London **Who does it say are Annie's parents are on the birth cert?** Zoe

I have a mystery, but doubt you would be able to help if you are using the census' - trying to find someone born in 1948. (please pm me if you think you could offer any advice) Karen xx

Nudge for the evening crowd! Will do all lookups later or tomorrow morn! Zo

hello zoe i have a birth cert for annie kemp living at 6 may foale cottages west battersea 23 jan 1890 also a 1901 census age 11 living at 19 brittania place battersea rg 13/454 so what do think birth cert for the frederick that is on the 1901 census rg13 /140 and sea what info it brings john

Deborah 1861 Salisbury Dock 'Victoria Tower' Head is Piermaster Christiana Taggart abt 1814 Peel, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Wife Liverpool Lancashire James Taggart abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire John Taggart abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Margaret Taggart abt 1847 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Robert Taggart abt 1810 Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Head Liverpool Lancashire William Taggart abt 1839 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Possible death for him Name: Robert Taggart Birth Date: abt 1811 Year of Registration: 1866 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 55 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 429 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1871 4 Gladstone Street Christina is a Widow and Seamstress William is a Shipwright Margaret Dom Servant John is a Shop boy Christina Taggart abt 1815 Peel, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Head Liverpool Lancashire James Taggart abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire John Taggart abt 1854 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Margaret Taggart abt 1849 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Mary Taggart abt 1868 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire William Taggart abt 1839 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hope this helps Zoe

John I can't see another than the one you said Do you have any info on the Kemp side any censuses ect. we could see if they are in the same area ~ I know it's 9 years before marriage but you never know Possible birth Name: Annie Florence Kemp Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Wandsworth County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 700 Zoe

Mel I replied on my other thread as that is where your original message is! Oh I see you have seen it now! Zoe

I replyed on other - have you given up on me? What would a marriage cert from back then tell me????? What kind of info does it have on it?? Do you know??? As for the children I dont know. I know that Albert (son) had a son who had a radio shop in peckham in approx 1930 and that one was possible called Irene. Regards, Melanie

hi zoe frederick reed 21 baker 2 canterbury place annie florence kemp 20 living at same address father frederic reed compositor and george robert kemp messenger witnes by george kemp clara l e kemp at st johns church battersea wandsworth 28 march 1910