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Zoe

Zoe Report 12 Mar 2006 11:18

Jane No problem my pleasure Zoe

Lynn

Lynn Report 12 Mar 2006 12:09

Thanks Zoe ..you have solved a mysterie my grandmother always thought her grandparents left Northants by 1881 you have them back from Berkshire in 1891 ....cheers

Zoe

Zoe Report 12 Mar 2006 12:12

Lynne No problem didn't have to think too hard so that's good anytime you need help just ask! Zoe

Neil

Neil Report 12 Mar 2006 14:13

Hi Zoe Can I take you up on your very generous offer please my brickwall is that I can not find Thomas Stone(s) and his family on the 1881 censes, I have him on the 1871 and 1891 it is sending me mad lol below are the details I have 1871 Thomas Stones 42 coal dealer born Notts Mary Stones 38 wife Notts William 18 son Notts John 14 son Staffs Thomas 12 son Staffs Clara daughter 3 Staffs Sarah A daughter 1 Staffs living at 12 paged road Burton Extra Burton on Trent Staffs 1891 Thomas Stone 64 coal dealer Notts Mary A Stone 59 wife Notts Sarah A 21 daughter Burton on trent Alf 15 son Burton on trent Clara Ingers 23 boarder (daughter) Burton on trent Mathew Ingers 22 boarder Notts WM Ingers 2 boarder Notts living at 10 Pollock street St Marys Nottingham again thank you for offer and good luck Regards Neil

Evie

Evie Report 12 Mar 2006 19:55

Thanks for looking Zoe. I have trawled the death indexes between 1881 and 1891 and found no trace of a death for either Margaret CAUDLE or her youngest son. I feel it is unlikely that they went abroad as she would surely have taken both sons with her. Her sister Emma was also a widow, working as a laundress, so not much wealth there! I haven't yet applied for William Henry Snr's death certificate but hopefully that may shed some light! I suspect that either Margaret remarried, although I can find no trace of that either, or she was 'living in sin' and took her partner's name. Anyway I am grateful for your efforts on my behalf. Kind regards Evie

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Mar 2006 23:17

my great grand mother ada whitting born canning town essex/married west ham1902 to henry winter /then nothing would like any thing more after 1901 census where she appears as ada whilling /drilling a mis trans/would love to find a death /or a remarried as she disapeared after 1905 thankyou

Denise

Denise Report 13 Mar 2006 00:31

Thanks so much. 11 Sept. 1858 at Haigh Chruch (I believe St. Davids according to the source I got the photo copy from in the 1980's) Henry Taylor 36 wid Stonemason Residence at time of Marriage; Aspull Father: William Taylor stonemason Jane Winrow 27 spinster no profession Residence at time of marriage: Haigh Father: Henry Winrow collier witnesses: Faith Winrow James Winrow. 1851 Census for Wigan- Here his first wife is still alive. Millgate: Henry Taylor Head mar 30 stonemason Wigan Margaret wife mar 31 Westhoughton William son u 3 Wigan John son u 1 Wigan William Lawson Uncle u 64 watchman Leigh. I did go to the IGI and found a William Taylor Married to Rebecca Lawson in 1813 at St Peter, Bolton Le Moors, Lanc. but I don't know how close this is to Wigan. Also a Henry Taylor born 1/09/1820 in Wigan to William Taylor and Rebecca. The name Rebecca also is carried down to a daughter by the second marriage, Margaret Rebekah. I have tracked the names of the children from both marriges from a book my aunt gave me that has recorded all of the birth dates. I can find no William Taylor in any census, nor a Rebecca (Rebekah) either. So, where do I go from here? Thanks, Denise

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:01

Neil Have looked and looked all I can suggest is going through the christian names of children at familysearch.org as they have free 1881 census there and hopefully finding one family with the right names ~ this is time consuming but when things get on your nerves drastic measures need to be taken LOL. Good luck hope you find them but the head likes to change his age that is why I said try to find the children ~ they must be badly mistranscribed somewhere. Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:04

Caroline There are no censuses available after 1901 yet ~ you need to trawl through the GRO records to find more info out ~long task hope you find what you are looking for! Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:28

Denise Have you got the 1841 census details? ~ I don't have access to them at moment this may help. You may find his parents on this. Now are you also wanting Henry in following censuses or are you saying you want to go back further? Where have you looked for William? I presume you have these from the IGI Henry's siblings THOMAS TAYLOR Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 02 AUG 1818 Christening: 04 OCT 1818 Wigan, Lancashire, England Death: 25 AUG 1821 Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM TAYLOR Mother: REBECCA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then you have Henrys details ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MARTHA TAYLOR Male (Wonder why a Martha is down as male?!?) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 13 SEP 1822 Christening: 01 JAN 1823 Wigan, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM TAYLOR Mother: REBECCA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then they had another son called thomas now in 1841 he should be just 15/16 maybe still with parents! THOMAS TAYLOR Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 13 MAR 1825 Christening: 31 JUL 1825 Wigan, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM TAYLOR Mother: REBECCA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Could this be a possiblity for Rebecca's birth? REBECCA LAWSON Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 26 APR 1793 Christening: 05 MAY 1793 Wigan, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: EDWARD LAWSON Mother: REBECCA KAYE Get back to me and will do all I can to help Zoe

Nichola

Nichola Report 13 Mar 2006 11:31

am looking for the wherabouts of Isabella/Isobella Dodds in Durham in 1901 census. she was born c1861 and I have her on the 1871. 1881 and 1891 census, on the 1891 census her and her 2 children ( Joseph and Elizabeth) are with Isabellas parents ( Bartholomew and Elizabeth Dodds) and 4 of bartholomews children,, I have located 2 other siblings of Isabellas that married and living elsewhere by the time of the 1901 census but I cannot find Isabella anywhere so I am unsure if Isabella is still alive in 1901. Can you help?!! Thanks, Nic x

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:38

Sue Firstly do you have her in the 1901 census with her husband as this should tell us where she was born. How do you know she was born Peckham/Camberwell? What were the details on the marriage cert for both parties please. What did it state her fathers job was on cert or was he deceased? Need to know this so I can ensure I'm on the right track. Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:40

Nichola Could you possibly post 1891 census details for me please as better to know her birthplace and who she is with Thanks Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 11:43

Nichola Is this them? 1891 Bartholomew Dodds abt 1841 South le Hou, Durham, England Head Old Park Durham Bartholomew Dodds abt 1879 Towlaw, Durham, England Son Old Park Durham Elizabeth A Dodds abt 1851 Pittington, Durham, England Wife Old Park Durham Elizabeth A Dodds abt 1889 Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Granddaughter Old Park Durham Isabella Dodds abt 1861 Quarrington Hill, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham John Thos Dodds abt 1881 Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Son Old Park Durham Joseph K Dodds abt 1884 Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Grandson Old Park Durham Mary A Dodds abt 1875 Towlaw, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham Phoebe E Dodds abt 1884 Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham Zoe

Nichola

Nichola Report 13 Mar 2006 11:47

no probs Zoe,, anything to make the searcha bit easier,, here goes, sorry if it's not laid out too well!! 1891 census Isabella is living with her parents and she is single but there are 2 grandchildren Joseph & Elizabeth. Isabella was born in district of Quarrington Hill and looking back at prev censuses ((is that a proper word!!) always appears to have lived with her parents Bartholomew Dodds abt 1841 --South le Hou, Durham, England Head Old Park Durham Bartholomew Dodds abt 1879 --Towlaw, Durham, England Son Old Park Durham Elizabeth A Dodds abt 1851 --Pittington, Durham, England Wife Old Park Durham Elizabeth A Dodds abt 1889 --Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Granddaughter Old Park Durham Isabella Dodds abt 1861 --Quarrington Hill, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham John Thos Dodds abt 1881 --Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Son Old Park Durham Joseph K Dodds abt 1884 Binchester Blocks, --Durham, England Grandson Old Park Durham Mary A Dodds abt 1875 --Towlaw, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham Phoebe E Dodds abt 1884 Binchester Blocks, Durham, England Daughter Old Park Durham Source information: RG12/4073 Registration district: Auckland Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 80 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6099183 The address looks like 80 Third Block.

Nichola

Nichola Report 13 Mar 2006 11:48

yes Zoe, thats them in 1891 abd I can find most of them in 1901 but no sign of Isabella!!!!

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 12:29

Nichola Just can't see any Isabella's born Quarrington Hill who match yours in the 1901 census, strange thing is cannot find a suitaable death either..I hate it when that happens. Well don't know what to suggest..maybe she was just missed out that night and when the 1911 census becomes available she will be around who knows!! Sorry couldn't help moe did have a good look though Zoe :)

Nichola

Nichola Report 13 Mar 2006 12:32

No probs Zoe, your time and effort is much appreciated,, I appear to be drawing a blank as well, on the 1871.81. and 91 her birthplace is shown as 3 diff towns but they are all the same area so I am guessing that the borders changed slightly with each census,, just to make our search even harder Thanks again for your help Nic x

Zoe

Zoe Report 13 Mar 2006 16:29

John Where did the marriage take place who were the witnesses as this may help. What were all the details it may be worth doing a electoral roll lookup at the addresses given! Sometimes they do fib on certs & census ~ alot in my family some don't seem to know their names and ages according to different events that happen...LOL It is very possible it is him, he is the only one I can see also Zoe

Denise

Denise Report 13 Mar 2006 17:19

Zoe, When I was doing research 20+ years ago, because I was going to LDS Family Centers and having to order in the films, I went through and copied all of the surnames of interest at that time. William was not among them. I think I will need to go again and try to find him. I did come up with the names and dates you already have, but didn't know if that is enough to go in, or does one have to get more definitive proof to say that a specific family is an ancestor. I was able to find Henry on the later census, so that is ok. I'm just trying to go back further. On another question, using the IGI can someone order the particular microfilm from the batch number to see the other details, (if any), on a parish record? Thanks so much for the input on this one. When/if you have time I have a few more mysteries. Thanks again for all your trouble and help. Denise