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Val wish I'd never started

Val wish I'd never started Report 10 Nov 2005 14:40

No have not really looked for children as the name Keen is so common and not finding them on the census dont really know where to look sorry

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2005 15:40

Valerie, I found this family... 1871 John Keen abt 1840 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head St Mary Stratford le Bow London Sarah A Keen abt 1849 Sheerness, Kent, England Wife St Mary Stratford le Bow London Sarah E Keen abt 1869 Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter St Mary Stratford le Bow London Eliza C Keen abt 1870 Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter St Mary Stratford le Bow London Fanny Hankinson abt 1852 Lancashire, England Servant St Mary Stratford le Bow London 1881 Sarah Keen abt 1850 England Head 41 Wheatstone Rd, Kensington, London, England Sarah E. Keen abt 1869 North Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter 41 Wheatstone Rd, Kensington, London, England Eliza C. Keen abt 1870 North Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter 41 Wheatstone Rd, Kensington, London, England John F. Keen abt 1873 North Bow, Middlesex, England Son 41 Wheatstone Rd, Kensington, London, England Mary A. Keen abt 1874 North Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter 41 Wheatstone Rd, Kensington, London, England He's a Distiller Clerk (?) in 1871. What do you think? Births Mar 1870 Keen Eliza Caroline Poplar 1c 650 Oh no, this is probably them... Marriages Dec 1867 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- KEEN John Thomas Stepney 1c 970 Lee Sarah Ann Stepney 1c 970

Benjy_Bumble

Benjy_Bumble Report 10 Nov 2005 16:26

Tracey, I cannot find, at all, any children between 1914 and 1920 for a Joseph Wilkinson Lewis and Frances Alice (nee Short) They have Nine daughters and Two sons. I have Five of the daughters and both sons. They lived in Chester le Street, Ouston and Pelton/Pelton Fell in their lifetime. I have checked St. Mary and St. Cuthbert's Church in Chester le Street to no avail. Can you help? I haven;t tried Holy Trinity Pelton. Ben.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Nov 2005 16:30

Ben, I found these... Birth Mar 1920 Lewis Hilda M Short Chester Le Street 10a 1482 Birth Sep 1917 Lewis Dorothy F Short Chester Le Street.10a 922 Birth Sep 1914 Lewis Thomasina S Short Chester Le Street.10a 1286 Birth Dec 1911 Lewis Mary E Short Chester Le Street.10a 1145 There was this one as well, but I don't know if he's yours... Birth Dec 1920 Lewis Albert E Short Durham.10a 831

**chrispy**

**chrispy** Report 10 Nov 2005 17:42

Hi Tracy, Thanks for looking for my William and Charles Pearce. You said you had found Charles Pearce bricklayer in 1851, I found him in 1861, could youplease tell me who else was at the address at the time? (Bentley Heath is near Barnett, Potters Bar but William could have gone anywhere. I find it incredible that after months of searching I still can't find a trace of him. A chap who knows the Bentley Heath area and searched for Williams birth but found no trace of it told me that I should just give up!) Thanks again Chris

Christine

Christine Report 10 Nov 2005 20:17

Hi Tracy, Thank you for your kind offer. I have a puzzle. I have a Caroline Rouse in my tree. I think I found the right Caroline in the 1901 census as a visitor to a Taylor household in Marylebone. She is listed as being 28, a maid, born in dover in Kent with a 6 year old daughter Alice. She married in 1914 (as Caroine Elizabeth) and her father is listed as Archibald Rouse (deceased), a private in the rifle brigade. I can't find a Caroline Rouse in free BMD that matches. I wonder if she appears in any earlier census with her father. I would be very grateful for any information Thanks, Christine

Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Nov 2005 20:18

Hi Tracey My Grandfather had a sister called Jessie Pendlebury and she married a Frank Lucas and went on to have three Children Florrie Lucas Stanley Lucas and Bernard Lucas am not sure of when he was born but he went missing in about 1919 that is what I got told off family and nobody has ever heard of him since his sister and brother and mum&dad are all deceased. All that I know is that they lived on School lane in bamber bridge?????? Its a complete mystery he just went out and never came back I know from a photograph that he married but I dont know who to or dates or anything!! Thankyou for helping Zoe

Val wish I'd never started

Val wish I'd never started Report 10 Nov 2005 22:35

hi and thanks Tracey but I found these and I dont know why but am sure it isnt them I told you there are too many Keens thanks a lot for trying

_MrsG_

_MrsG_ Report 10 Nov 2005 22:36

Hi Tracey, John Phillips wasn't married in either as far as I know. On the 1901 he was in police accomadation in London. Regards Viveka

Benjy_Bumble

Benjy_Bumble Report 11 Nov 2005 09:04

Tracey, Thankyou very much. You are a terrific help. Where are you in Teesside? I live in Chester le Street, Co. Durham. Again, thankyou for your help. Ben.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:07

Chris - if I can find him again lol This one I think.... Charles Pearce abt 1807 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head St Marylebone Middlesex (Bricklayer Journeyman) Martha Pearce abt 1805 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Wife St Marylebone Middlesex (Dressmaker) Ann Pearce abt 1831 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone Middlesex (Servant out of place) Martha Pearce abt 1839 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone Middlesex (Scholar) Bell Street. Might be 12, but there's only one address on the page.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:21

Elaine, I think this is her in 1861 Lucy Jackson abt 1832 Therfield, Hertfordshire, England Servant Royston Cambridgeshire I think the age should be 20, rather than 29, which would make her dob 1841. 1871 Carey Smith abt 1843 Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Head Hendon Middlesex Lucy Smith abt 1843 Westmill, Hertfordshire, England Wife Hendon Middlesex Agnes Smith abt 1870 Camden Rd, Middlesex, England Daughter Hendon Middlesex 1891 Smith, Carey abt 1843 Foleshill, Warwickshire, England Head Loughborough Leicestershire Smith, Lucy abt 1843 Westrill, Hertfordshire, England Wife Loughborough Leicestershire Smith, Ernest abt 1875 Hinckley, Leicestershire, England Son Loughborough Leicestershire Smith, Alphus abt 1872 Cricketwood, Middlesex, England Nephew Richmond Yorkshire

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:38

Louise, I don't think they were married in 1851 William Stroud abt 1831 Ide, Devon, England Servant Tormoham Devon 1841 William Stroud, 40, Ag Lab, Y Elizabeth, 35, Y Elizabeth, 7, Y William, 14, Y Egg Buckland Can't find the others.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:39

Kate, Ann Barker abt 1824 Hunton, Yorkshire, England Wife Topcliffe Yorkshire Jane Barker abt 1849 Dishforth, Yorkshire, England Daughter Topcliffe Yorkshire Samuel Barker abt 1817 Dishforth, Yorkshire, England Head Topcliffe Yorkshire William Barker abt 1849 Dishforth, Yorkshire, England Son Topcliffe Yorkshire William Bayford abt 1759 N Lodger Topcliffe Yorkshire Charles Thickell abt 1831 Marton le Moor, Yorkshire, England Head Topcliffe Yorkshire Mary Thickell abt 1827 Copmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England Wife Topcliffe Yorkshire Thomas Thickell abt 1850 Marton le Moor, Yorkshire, England Son Topcliffe Yorkshire Isabelle Wilson abt 1823 Hunton, Yorkshire, England Visitor Topcliffe Yorkshire

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:44

Christine, are you sure it's the right Caroline? What is her age on the marriage cert? I did find this one - Birth Jun 1871 Ross Caroline Eliza Dover 2a 832 but her father is Thomas.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 09:51

Zoe, I already gave you the marriage and told you I couldn't find people after 1920. Marriage Sep 1919 Pendlebury Jessie Lucas Frank Chorley 8e 1533

cane

cane Report 11 Nov 2005 10:28

hi tracy, please can you solve this one for me. i already had my gt-grand mothers marriage certificate for 1902 [florence edith barber to benjamin hackett] so i started to trace the barber family. i eventually found them on all censuses so far but florence was not with them on 1901,i asked for help on the message boards and a marriage was found for her to a william church 1898, she being just 16yrs old.on the 1902 marriage she is stated as being a spinster. my question is how do i find out if the first marriage was dissolved[her first marriage was in norfolk where she was born,the second being in salford lanc's] regards gwen

Miriam

Miriam Report 11 Nov 2005 10:32

Dear Tracy I have a Joseph McGreaves born in Bolton Jan - Mar 1882. He doesn't appear on the 1901 census (although there are other McGreaves in Bolton - none of whom appear to be about the right age). In April 1908 he marries my relative Florence Goater in Bolton. Can you find him anywhere? Can you see if there are any births after 1908? FreeBMD just has the one and that is too early (I think!) The marriage certificate has his father's name as Samuel Lumb but I can't find him in 1901 either! is this likely to be his step-father? Every time I think I'm getting closer with this it gets more twists and turns in it. Sorry if this is rambling and confused. Thanks again for all your time and troubles. Best wishes Maria

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 10:48

Gewn, I wouldn't know where to look. It is unlikely that the marriage ended officially. They probably just went their separate ways. Would explain why she ended up in Salford lol

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 11 Nov 2005 10:50

Maria, what were their occupations on the marriage cert?