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Can do 1851 lookups again also willing to do 1871/

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Tracy

Tracy Report 27 Oct 2005 22:44

Hi Laurie Thanks for the offer. Can you look for Michael Lyons born 1869 Middlesex living in London on the 1871 census please. His siblings were poss: Denis B 1859 / Mary Ann B: 1863 / Margaret B: 1862 all born whitechapel. If poss could you find the household of Peter Lyons B: 1813 Ireland in middlesex on the 1861 please. His occ in 1871 was a bootmaker master. Any info appreciated Thanks Tracey

Laurie

Laurie Report 27 Oct 2005 22:59

Hi Tracy, The only Michael I can find living with siblings: Mary Ann and Dennis isn't the right one as he's b1850, Macroom Ireland. Do you have any idea of pss parents names or where they are from.....I found a couple of possibles: one born 1867....Whitechapel, one 1869 Aldgate Middlesex. one....1870 Westminster one 1870 St Giles Could his father have been Irish as I have one of these whose father was from Ireland. Will get back to you with the other result in a min. Laurie

Laurie

Laurie Report 27 Oct 2005 23:04

Hi Tracy, Here is Peter occ Boot Maker at Shop: Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image View Record Ellen Lyons abt 1811 Limerick, Ireland Wife Saffron Hill Middlesex View Record Ellen Lyons abt 1849 Middlesex, England Daughter Saffron Hill Middlesex View Record John Lyons abt 1840 Middlesex, England Son Saffron Hill Middlesex View Record Peter Lyons abt 1813 City Clare, Ireland Head Saffron Hill Middlesex View Record Richard Lyons abt 1841 Middlesex, England Son Saffron Hill Middlesex

Tracy

Tracy Report 27 Oct 2005 23:24

Hi Laurie Thanks for looking... i think i may have confused myself. I now have Peter Lyons in 1861 married with 3 children (which was what you found, thank you) Then in 1871 he was re-married with 1 child only 8mths. Obviously the children of the 1st marriage have left home, but on the 1881 Peter is widowed and without his young son. I cant find a death and on looking for his son daniel Lyons born 1870 clerkenwell, i can only find 1 born in whitechapel living with older siblings, but these siblings dont match those of the census you found, yet peter lyons is definately the same man... Oh dear, im confused. Thanks for you help anyway, and time in looking Tracey

Deborah

Deborah Report 27 Oct 2005 23:33

Hello Laurie Could you please look on the 1871 census for a Elizabeth Wheatley(birth name) /or Mckenzie/Mckenszie In 1881 she is with her second husband but I cant trace her first marriage to a Mckenzie,She was born 1852/3 in Berwick on Tweed,which is Northumberland/Durham. Could you also look for her 2nd husband in 1871 Robert Sibbald born Scotland 1830 possibly living with wife Margaret in Gateshead or Newcastle. Thank you Deborah

Laurie

Laurie Report 27 Oct 2005 23:48

Hi Tracy found this fairly sure it's her as the district includes Saffron Hill: Name: Lyons, Ellen Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 60 Quarter: June Year: 1871 District: Holborn County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 406 (click to see others on page) also she's the right age. Laurie

Laurie

Laurie Report 27 Oct 2005 23:50

Hi Tracy and here's his second marriage: Cameron, Margaret 1869 June Marriages Clerkenwell London Middlesex View Record Lyons, Peter 1869 June Marriages Clerkenwell London Middlesex

Laurie

Laurie Report 27 Oct 2005 23:56

Hi Tracy could this be his second wifes death, right age and Holborn also includes the area of Clerkenwell: Name: Lyons, Margaret Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 40 Quarter: March Year: 1879 District: Holborn County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 548 (click to see others on page)

Tracy

Tracy Report 27 Oct 2005 23:58

Hi Laurie Thanks for checking that for me, they are the names i had aswell, akthough the first marriage was only as the result of you finding the 1861 census. This means Peter Lyons married his second wife prior to his first wife dying, as ellen died in 1871 and he married margaret in 1869!! mmm, interesting. Thanks for taking the time to look, its much appreciated, 2 heads are better than one, and i dont trust mine, lol :-)) Yes i certain thats margarets death also, which you would assume that their son daniel would be with his father peter in 1881... but hes not hence why i tried to cross match a daniel i found living only with siblings but they dont match up. Thanks again Tracey

Laurie

Laurie Report 28 Oct 2005 00:19

Hi Deborah here's your first result: Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island View Image View Record James Sibbald abt 1871 Northland, Bedlington Son Bedlington Northumberland View Record John Sibbald abt 1869 Northland, Bedlington Son Bedlington Northumberland View Record Margaret Sibbald abt 1845 Scotland Wife Bedlington Northumberland View Record Robert Sibbald abt 1831 Scotland Head Bedlington Northumberland View Record Robert Sibbald abt 1861 Northland, Bedlington Son Bedlington Northumberland

Laurie

Laurie Report 28 Oct 2005 00:36

Hi Deborah, Not having no luck with Elizabeth, there a couple of possible for her using her maiden name but it doesn't have Berwick as place of birth and she's a servant so cant be 100% Laurie The only Mckenzie appearing on the same page as her in marriages from 1871-1881 is another woman......which in those days I cant see being right....lol If you think of anything else let me know.

Karen

Karen Report 28 Oct 2005 16:04

many thanks laurie for the marriage details of sarah and philip miles karen

Susan

Susan Report 28 Oct 2005 16:13

Hi Laurie, thanks for the offer. Could you try to find the following in the 1851 in Aberdare Glamorganshire. Thomas Phillips aged about 26 wife Rachel 35 daughter Pheobe 5 son James 3 I think Thomas was born in Pembrokeshire but not certain. Sue

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Oct 2005 16:21

Hi Laurie. I have seen a listing on the 1901 site - was wondering if you could check it for me. Susan Dye, age 60. Born Middlesex. I think she is now living in Hampstead. I would like to know who she is living with, and maybe who is next door, in case they are rellies. Many thanks. Margaret

Jane

Jane Report 28 Oct 2005 17:20

Laurie Please can you look up William Chorley born abt 1782 in Wiveliscombe, Somerset and his wife Jane or Charity not sure of her exact date of birth but must be about 1872 in Wiveliscombe. They should still be in Wiveliscombe. Thanks for your help jane

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 28 Oct 2005 18:02

hi i am trying to find a ISABEL YOUNG born 1885 married to THOMAS JEFFERY born 1884 her mother was ELIZABETH DEXTER (1852c ) and father was THOMAS YOUNG (1852c ) we know that THOMAS died in the 1914 war but cannot find what happened to isabel after that. thanks lesley they all came from around the TRING area

Laurie

Laurie Report 29 Oct 2005 01:57

Hi Susan, Can only see one Thomas on Wales 1851 and he's a lodger born caernarvonshire. Do you have any more details? Laurie

Laurie

Laurie Report 29 Oct 2005 02:03

Hi Margaret, Here's Susan: Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image View Record Mar Batchelor abt 1873 Hampstead, London, England Sister-in-law Hampstead London View Record Margaret Batchelor abt 1834 Pembrok, Parvett Mother-in-law Hampstead London View Record Susan Dye abt 1841 Nk, Middlesex, England Boarder Hampstead London View Record Hetty Hiscocks abt 1872 Plumstead, London, England Visitor Hampstead London View Record Frank R Household abt 1898 Hampstead, London, England Son Hampstead London View Record Lewis Sam Household abt 1899 Hampstead, London, England Son Hampstead London View Record Louisa Household abt 1867 Hampstead, London, England Wife Hampstead London View Record Sam S Household abt 1862 Hampstead, London, England Head Hampstead London John Hurst and family living one side and Edith Barrs and family living the other. Laurie

Laurie

Laurie Report 29 Oct 2005 02:07

Hi Frances, This is the only sarah I can see in the right age group: View Record Sarah Ann Turner abt 1836 Stanningley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Pudsey Yorkshire Could this be her? Laurie

Laurie

Laurie Report 29 Oct 2005 02:10

Hi Jane what census do you want me to look at and what year would William have been born? Laurie