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Hello Tracy, Here's another one for the Winfield family tree! I just received the marriage certificate for my g-g-g-grandparents. Arthur Winfield and Ann Maria Burroughs, 16 September 1855 in Hammersmith. Both resident in Shepherd's Bush. Her father is down as Henry Finch, cabinet maker. I've never come across him before. Her mother was Ann Burroughs, both daughter and mother were born in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk. I'd like to know where Henry Finch comes from and when (whether) he married Ann Burroughs. He doesn't crop up in the family home in 1861 onwards. Can you help at all please? Thanks again Jane

Jane, when were they born?

Arthur was born in 1829 in Suffolk, Ann junior was born in 1829 in Bury St Edmunds and Ann snr was born in about 1810 in Bury. I've no idea for Henry Finch.

Jane, I'm puzzled by this. He doesn't appear with Ann in either 1851 or 1841.

I'm puzzled too! Where is Ann in 1841 and 1851 please? Is she in Bury or London, married or widow or single?. Jane

This has opened a can of worms - My grandmother was one of eight children and Willie Slack and Rachel Grubey were her parents. You have brought up Gladys and William who tally in with my family tree and the ages match. Didnt know about the Arthur or Rachel jnr but they could have died as children. The other children are Mary, Evelyn, Howard, Ron d.o.b 1921. and Alfred and my nan Mavis d.o.b.1924.

She's in Bury - single (I think) on both counts. I'll post them in a mo. I went through all the Henry Finch's in 1851 born 1810 +/-5, and this was the closest I got to Cabinet Maker ... Henry Finch abt 1809 A Upthorpe, Berkshire, England Head Blewbury Berkshire - Carpenter 1851 Eleanor Barrell abt 1807 Whepstead, Suffolk, England Head Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Ann Burroughs abt 1810 Buy, Suffolk, England Lodger Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk Ellen Burroughs abt 1843 Buy, Suffolk, England Lodger Bury St Edmunds St Mary Suffolk 1841 Robert Burroughs, 65, Carpenter, born in county Thomas, 4, born in county Ann, 31, born in county Ann, 11, born in county Mary, 12, born in county St Andrews St, Bury St Edmunds.

Thanks again Tracy, I'll have to puzzle this one out a bit more. I may trouble you again about this! Very warm regards, Jane

OMG Jane! I went back to 1841 to look for a Henry in Suffolk and look what I found!! Henry Finch, 34, CABINET MAKER, born in county Francis Finch, (fem) 37, somthing I can't read, born in county Henry Finch, 14, born in county Living Bury St Edmunds! So, she must've been illegitimate, and told who her father was!

Wow!!!!! Thanks Tracy, super sleuth does it again!! You are a really great help, Tracy. Have a deserved rest this weekend. I'll just quickly cancelthe other thread! Very best wishes, Jane

Jackie, maybe? Carrie Hughes abt 1856 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Head Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Eliza J Hughes abt 1878 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Daughter Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Joseph Hughes abt 1879 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Sarah E Hughes abt 1881 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Daughter Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Ernest Hughes abt 1886 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Bertha Hughes abt 1887 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Daughter Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Lilias A Hughes abt 1891 Sandbach, Cheshire, England Daughter Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Albert Hughes abt 1893 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire

David, there are quite a few Marriages and Deaths on FreeBMD. Could any of them be him? Where are the rest of his family in 1851?

Hi Tracy,any chance you could help with this mystery?: On the 1881 census an Annie Ross is listed at 10 Greaves St,Chorlton on Medlock M/cr (RG11/3914 f87 p15) she is housekeeper to Arthur Whittaker and there is a 2 month old child called Lilie Ross,listed as Arthur's daughter.A Lily Whittaker (as a middle name) ROSS died in 1881 aged 0 which seems to prove she was Annie and Arthurs daughter.I can't find a birth ref for her either at the end of 1880/ beginning 1881.In 1883 Mary Ann Ross (Whose sister Ann I suppose Annie is) had a witness to her wedding called Annie Whittaker.FreeBMD/UKBMD weren't any help(I've not had chance to go to the record office yet) and there are no records of an Annie Ross/Whittaker or Arthur Whittaker in 1891 or 1901 and none of Arthur before 1881 either.Hope you can help!Andrea

Hi Tracy, Thank you so much for that you have found for me, I would of been looking till Nelson got his eye back lol have a lovely weekend you deserve it kind regards June

Andrea Birth Jun 1881 Ross Lily Whittaker Chorlton 8c 790 1881! :O Elizabeth Whittaker abt 1844 Manchester Lodger (Head) Mount Crescent 35, Chorlton On Medlock, Lancashire, England - it says Wife (Parted) She's still alive in 1891 too! A toffe shop keeper no less lol - so perhaps they left the country to avoid her? I checked ScotlandsPeople, and there are a couple there, but I don't have any credits to find out if they're yours or not. 1871(I think) Arthur Whittaker abt 1844 Manchester Lodger Hulme Lancashire Elizabeth Whittaker abt 1844 Manchester Wife Hulme Lancashire Anne Whittaker abt 1858 Manchester Sister Hulme Lancashire 1861 Henry Whitaker abt 1821 Manchester Head Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire Mary A Whitaker abt 1822 Manchester Wife Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire Arthur Whitaker abt 1844 Manchester Son Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire Emma Whitaker abt 1850 Manchester Daughter Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire Henry Whitaker abt 1855 Manchester Son Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire Sarah A Whitaker abt 1858 Manchester Daughter Chorlton upon Medlock Lancashire 1851 Henry Whitaker abt 1817 Manchester Head Manchester Lancashire Mary Ann Whitaker abt 1821 Manchester Wife Manchester Lancashire Mary Whitaker abt 1836 Manchester Daughter Manchester Lancashire George Whitaker abt 1842 Manchester Son Manchester Lancashire Arthur Whitaker abt 1844 Manchester Son Manchester Lancashire Issabella Whitaker abt 1847 Manchester Daughter Manchester Lancashire Emma Whitaker abt 1850 Manchester Daughter Manchester Lancashire

Hi Tracy, Thanks for all that great info,you're an absolute star-I didn't think to look After the 1881 census for the birth of a child 2 months old on it-I'll be more flexible in future!!Thanks again,Andrea