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Brian

Brian Report 17 Oct 2005 16:08

Hi Tracy. I wonder if you can solve a problem that has been taxing me for years? I have been trying to trace the marriage of my Gt. G.father John or Jno COOK who was born in Whitehaven in 1852. and Mary Ann BROOKS born in Rockbeer Devon in 1849. John moved with his family to Barnes in Surrey between 1852 and 1857 they lived at Green Farm. I can find them on all of the Census records but can find no record of his marriage. In 1881 John and his wife lived in Battersea with their two sons Frank aged 6 ( my Grandfather) and George aged 5. I suppose that there is a chance that they were married in Devon but I have searched all of the records I can without any luck. Please let me know if you need any further info. Many thanks Brian, living in Sussex England.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 15:56

Sorry Helen, you will have to search the GRO registers for this one. They did have a son, according to the 1861 census, in 1844 in North Bovey. You should start there. 1851 Richard Townsend Ide, Devonshire, England Male 40 Mary Townsend Chagford, Devonshire, England Female 30 Henry Townsend North Bovey, Devonshire, England Male 8 William Townsend North Bovey, Devonshire, England Male 5 John Townsend Kingstenton, Devonshire, England Male 3 Ide St. Thomas, Devonshire

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 15:45

Lynn, when & who did she marry?

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 15:32

Helen, where was their son born?

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 15:28

Lynn, these are the only ones that come up in Salford... Elizabeth Sampson abt 1857 Salford, Lancashire, England Niece Salford Lancashire Eliza Simpson abt 1814 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Boarder Salford Lancashire Eliza Ann Simpson abt 1850 Salford, Lancashire, England Daughter Salford Lancashire Elizabeth Simpson abt 1819 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife Hulme Lancashire Elizabeth Simpson abt 1823 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Heath Lancashire Elizabeth Simpson abt 1827 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Wife Pendleton Lancashire Elizabeth Simpson abt 1799 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Salford Lancashire Elizabeth Ama Simpson abt 1856 Salford, Lancashire, England Daughter Salford Lancashire Jane Elizabeth Snibson abt 1850 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Salford Lancashire Do you know any more of her family members? It might help if I can look for someone else.

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 Oct 2005 15:21

Hi Tracey Many thanks once again you have been a very big help Thankyou Cheers Sheila

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 15:02

David, my grandmother is called Sarah on her birth cert, but is known by everyone as Sally. I still don't know why, but I'd say it's ok :)

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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 14:47

David, I got his death but not much else yet lol Deaths Sep 1875 MANWARING Henry 81 Worcester 6c 160 Ah hah! 1871 Henry Mewerery abt 1796 Benenden, Kent, England Head St Nicholas Worcestershire - He's a Tailor. and 1861 Henry Mannanry abt 1795 Bencasden, Kent, England Head St Peter Worcestershire Sarah M Mannanry abt 1831 Huthwaite, Surrey, England Daughter St Peter Worcestershire Adam Nater abt 1845 Droitwich, Worcestershire, England Servant St Peter Worcestershire He's a Widow in both cases, so Sarah must've died before 1861. I've even got him in 1841!! Henry Manwaring, 40, Tailor, born in county Sarah '', 40, born in county Sarah '', 15, born in county William, 10, born in county James, 8, born in county Catherine, 5, born in county living MEALCHEAPEN STREET, WORCESTER, ST MARTIN

Shannette

Shannette Report 17 Oct 2005 14:00

Thanks Tracey for trying.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 13:45

Sheila, I'll have to start with this in 1891... Fitt, Robert W abt 1845 Birmingham Head Kensington London Fitt, Jane abt 1848 Yarcombe, Devon, England Wife Kensington London Fitt, Lucy abt 1884 St Malvern Daughter Kensington London Fitt, Emily abt 1886 Plumstead, Kent, England Daughter Kensington London Fitt, Welson(Nelson?) V abt 1888 Redhill, Surrey, England Son Kensington London I take it this is the family you found in 1881... Robert Fitt abt 1841 Birm, Warwickshire, England Head Sarah I. Fitt abt 1841 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Amy Fitt abt 1873 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter Lily Fitt abt 1879 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter 6 St Lukes St, Derby St Werburgh, Derbyshire, England Can't find him in 1871 1861 Charlotte Fitt abt 1811 Scotland Head (Widow) Hulme Lancashire Charlotte Fitt abt 1842 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Hulme Lancashire Robert Fitt abt 1841 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Hulme Lancashire Births Jun 1840 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Fitt Robert Birmingham 16 246 from FreeBMD 1841 Charlotte Fitt, 30, born in Scotland Thomas (crossed out), 3 Robert, 1, born in county John Gayfords, 19, born in county Letitia '', 21, born in county St Thomas, Birmingham.

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 Oct 2005 13:41

Hi Tracey Sorry to bother you yet again but could you help me with another mystery I have. My great grandfather is called Robert W Fitt married to Jane Fitt nee French he was born c1845 in Birmingham and profession was a compositor according to the 1891 census for Kensington London. His children were Lucy, Emily and Nelson. His father's name was Thomas Fitt on his marriage certificate to Jane, (married in Swansea Wales) Now all I can find is a Robert Fitt married to Sarah I on the 1881 census with children Amy & Lily same birth place and profession. Do you think you could possibly find a birth for him or any other census detail prior to 1881 I am beginning to wonder if he is a bigamist as my grandfather Nelson was a bit of a gay blade. I hope you can help me with this one too. Cheers Sheila

Emily

Emily Report 17 Oct 2005 13:14

Thanks for looking. Much appreciated, Emily

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 13:08

Shannette, I don't have Birkenhead, but he's not in Warwickshire. I won't be able to find a death before 1866.

Shannette

Shannette Report 17 Oct 2005 13:06

Please can you find Elijah Palfreyman on the 1841 if you have it for Birkenhead or warks. He was born in 1799 in Warks and married Margaret McQuire in 1820. I am also looking for her death as he remarried in 1841 to a Jane Smith.I have him on the 1861 and 71 censuses in Birkenhead.Thanks.

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 Oct 2005 12:54

Hi Tracey THANK YOU your are a STAR*************** Now I have some more names and dates to get on with Many Many Thanks Sheila

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 12:50

Emily, I can't find a trace of her at all.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 12:42

Sheila, this is them in 1891 Moltone, Louis abt 1854 Graazen, Brabourne Head St Thomas Glamorgan Mottone, Catherine abt 1867 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Wife St Thomas Glamorgan Mottone, Lettice abt 1887 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter St Thomas Glamorgan Mottone, Rosalie abt 1889 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter St Thomas Glamorgan Birth Jun 1885 Mottoul Albert Swansea 11a 784 Birth Dec 1888 Mottoul Rosalie Swansea 11a 751 Birth Dec 1891 Mottoul Thomas Stafford Swansea 11a 905 Death Sep 1886 Mottoul Albert 1 Swansea 11a 422 Death Mar 1892 Mottoul Rosaline 3 Swansea 11a 631 Death Jun 1893 Mottoul Thomas Stafford 1 Swansea 11a 525 Marriage Jun 1885 Mottoul Louis Swansea 11a 1014 Marriage Jun 1913 Mottoul John (not sure who this is...) Etienne Anne J Swansea 11a 1712

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 Oct 2005 12:35

Hi Tracey Thanks for your very kind offer I am looking for the Mottoul family, they lived in Swansea, Glamorgan. As this name is from Belgium, it is a very unusual name for Wales. I am hoping that there might be some descendants left in Wales. My grand mother was called Lettice Annie Mottoul, her father was Louis Mottoul and her mother was Catherine Mottoul nee Hobbs. Hope you can solve a few mysteries for me, I have found them on the 1901 census, although Louis and Catherine surname was spelt Mattoul. I have the birth of my grandmother/marriage/death but nothing for anyone else. Hope this isn't to much to ask you. Cheers Sheila

Emily

Emily Report 17 Oct 2005 12:32

Hi again, Thanks for that information - that is him. Juliane(Julia) was born 1854/5 in Germany and Florence in 1876 in St Pancras. I think the deaths would have been registered in St Pancras. Emily

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 17 Oct 2005 12:00

You didn't say when he was born, but maybe... Death Mar 1919 Stritter Julius 69 West Ham 4a 525