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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 Oct 2005 10:44

Tracey Please may I ask for more help? I've seen a marriage listed on freebmd for Herbert Bowers SKERRETT in Dec Q. 1908 in Upton. This is not far from the area where I am researching SKERRETTs who have distant connections with BOWERS.(ie. in Herefordshire) I can't find a Herbert being born in that area ( I do know of ones just Herbert b. 1837 and 1885) with that middle name. I can't find a suitable one in 1901 either. (The Ullingswick one is mine and accounted for) Can you help please?

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 10:49

Cliff, I found a Robert in 1901, but it says his father is Fred? I also found a household with father William, son William and daughter Margaret, but no Robert. What are William and Roberts occupations?

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 10:54

Helen, I haven't found any marrying Williams. That's not to say they didn't, just not within my scope. There is nothing to say that any of them did marry Williams and their name is quite common, so I'm looking for a possibly non-existant needle in a haystack.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 10:59

Gwyneth, there is another Herbert in 1878, but I can only find ones born in Manchester on the 1901 census. The 1878 one was regittered in Wolstanton.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 Oct 2005 11:06

Thank you for that Tracy. I'll have to buy the certificate to answer my nosiness and find out whose son he was. Thank you for your help.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 11:07

Just found the 1878 one dying in 1879 :( He might've been the son of another Herbert, born 1845 in Newcastle, Staffs.

Tracey

Tracey Report 6 Oct 2005 11:16

Hi Tracy Do you think you could have a look on 1871 please for Thomas and Elizabeth Overman, they are in Maulden, Beds in 1861, Thomas age 53, farmer born Maulden and Elizabeth born Burnham Sutton age 53 (in 1871) They had children Edward 25, Arthur 24, Emma 22, Robert 21,William 20 Thomas 18 and Margaret 13 (in 1871 all born Maulden. Thank you Tracey

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 11:26

Tracey, they're all over the place... Elizth Overman abt 1818 Burnham, Norfolk, England Lodger Filey Yorkshire Emma Overman abt 1849 Maulden, Berkshire, England Lodger Filey Yorkshire Robert Overman abt 1847 Maulden, Bedfordshire, England Wentworth Yorkshire Ellen Ovesman abt 1845 Manldon, Bedfordshire, England Shopn St Marylebone London Wm Hy Overman abt 1851 Manlden, Bedfordshire, England Shopn(Shop Assistant I think) St Marylebone London Margaret E Overman abt 1859 Maulden, Bedfordshire, England Pupil Baslow Derbyshire

Tracey

Tracey Report 6 Oct 2005 11:31

Blimey,I see what you mean! Many thanks for looking Tracy.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 11:37

Fran, John Grace Reed abt 1827 Devon, England Head St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Jemmima Reed abt 1828 Surrey, England Wife St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex John Grace Reed abt 1851 London City Son St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Elizth Ann Reed abt 1855 London City Daughter St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Hitton Jane Reed abt 1857 London City Daughter St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Ellen Jemmima Reed abt 1860 London City Daughter St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Edwin Reed abt 1839 Devon, England Brother St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex George Thomas Wynne abt 1836 Middlesex, England St Ann Blackfriar Middlesex Looks like they're all Tailors.

Colette

Colette Report 6 Oct 2005 11:39

Thanks Tracey the Kathleen E A could well be theres as Edward was working as a school board worker in Foleshill when he re-enlisted in the army his mother was called Ann, so the E may stand for Ellen and the A Ann. You have helped a great deal thanks very much. Col xx

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Oct 2005 12:51

Hello Tracey I don't know if you will be able to help me, I have death certificates for the following 2 people, which were my Grandmother and Grandfather. I was wondering if you could possably help me with their births. Marjorie Eliza Masters (Marsters) b. 03/11/1913 Islington London. William Edward Smith (might have been born Puttick or Puttock rumour in the family about his mother marrying a second time and him taking on the name of his stepfather) b. 10/04/1913 Islington, London. This is all the information i have on these two, not many relatives alive to ask now. The ones that are still alive can't remember a lot. I would really appreciate any help i can get on these two, as i have three small children and cannot visit records office for at least another 4-5 years yet. Thank you Michelle.

Martin

Martin Report 6 Oct 2005 13:13

Tracy I have another 2 mysteries. I beleive an ancester Emily Chisnall (b 1869 Islington) married a Herbert Handley (b1868 Islington). The other is her brother Richard Chisnall (b 1867 Islington) who may have married a Louisa Jane and had two children Rebecca Louise (b1899) and Leslie Richard (b1900) However, I cannot find any hard evidence of this. Would be very grateful if you can help. Many many thanks Martin

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 13:16

Michelle, Birth Dec 1912 Masters Marjorie E mother - Wynn Islington 1b 560 I can't find a William E in Islington. As you can appreciate, there are a LOT of Smiths in London, so I would be unable to say which of the others might be him. These are your possibles... Puttick William E - Davies - Pancras.1b 37 Birth 2 1913 Smith William E - Sell - Mile End Old Town.1c 843 Birth 2 1912 Smith William E - Welsh - Fulham.1a 600 Birth 2 1913 Smith William E A - Jackson - Poplar.1c 904 Birth 2 1913 Smith William E - Maslin - Paddington.1a 23 Birth 2 1914 Smith William E - Gunning - Woolwich.1d 2305 Birth 2 1914 Smith William E G - Joy - St Olave.1d 374 Birth 2 1914

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Oct 2005 13:28

Tracey Thank you so much, i have something to look into now as i couldn't find a thing. Michelle.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 13:31

Martin, I'll start with Richard cos he's easier... Marriages Dec 1896 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chisnall Richard Hackney 1b 1053 Stone Louisa Jane Hackney 1b 1053 1901 Richard Chisnall abt 1867 Holloway, London, England Head Shenfield Essex Louisa Jane Chisnall abt 1868 Stoke Newington, London, England Wife Shenfield Essex Leslie Richard Chisnall abt 1894 Shenfield, Essex, England Son Shenfield Essex Rebe Louise Chisnall abt 1899 Upper Clayton, London, England Daughter Shenfield Essex Emily Ethel Chisnall abt 1886 Warley, Essex, England Servant Shenfield Essex Marriages Dec 1898 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chisnall Emily Hackney 1b 1106 Harding Herbert John Hackney 1b 1106 Ha Harding abt 1866 Clerkenwell, London, England Head Clerkenwell London Emily Harding abt 1869 Islington, London, England Wife Clerkenwell London Ethel Harding abt 1894 Islington, London, England Daughter Clerkenwell London Both marriages were on FreeBMD.

Agnes

Agnes Report 6 Oct 2005 14:05

Hi Tracy Mary Knowles b/1838 d/1918 Llansantffraid denbighshire nth Wales. missing on the 1860/1 censes had a daughter that year .always lived same area Where was she that year??parents Thomas & jane Knowles. Hope you can help! regards Agnes

Lesley

Lesley Report 6 Oct 2005 14:09

Hello Tracy,I'm trying to find Jane Gudgin on the 1871 census.She was born 1845 ,in Weedon Northants,which is where she was in 1861.She married my ancestor John Cottingham in1861,and had his child the following year.By 1871,he was living with another woman in London,but i can't find Jane anywhere.She wasn't with her family in Weedon,although she died there in 1878.Any suggestions ? Regards Lesley.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 14:11

Agnes, she wasn't in Wales that year... John Holcroft abt 1831 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Everton Lancashire Sarah Holcroft abt 1836 Llansaintffraid, Denbighshire, Wales Wife Everton Lancashire Eleanor Holcroft abt 1856 Llandudno, Caernarvonshire, Wales Daughter Everton Lancashire Richard Holcroft abt 1858 Thurnham, Lancashire, England Son Everton Lancashire Mary Knowles abt 1839 Llansantffraid, Denbighshire, Wales Sister-in-law Everton Lancashire

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 6 Oct 2005 14:15

Cliff... Fred Bowers abt 1856 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Head Skegby Nottinghamshire Anne Bowers abt 1859 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Skegby Nottinghamshire Ernest Bowers abt 1881 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Son Skegby Nottinghamshire Walter Bowers abt 1887 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Son Skegby Nottinghamshire Robert Bowers abt 1889 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Son Skegby Nottinghamshire May Bowers abt 1894 Harscheath, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Skegby Nottinghamshire Albert Bowers abt 1897 Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England Son Skegby Nottinghamshire Ernest Bowers abt 1884 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Helen Bowers abt 1871 London, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Margaret E Bowers abt 1875 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Mary Bowers abt 1883 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire William Bowers abt 1843 Little Bowden, Northamptonshire, England Head Nottingham Nottinghamshire Wm W Bowers abt 1877 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Eliza J Else abt 1883 Riddings, Derbyshire, England Servant Nottingham Nottinghamshire Elizabeth Phillips abt 1874 Dudley, Staffordshire, England Servant Nottingham Nottinghamshire