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3rd NEW THREAD.1861-1901Census,BMD,Pallots LOOK UP

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* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 19 Aug 2005 23:54

Your very welcome Mike If you need anything else dont hesitate to ask. Good luck...have fun Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 00:01

Right Im off to bed I will be on Tomorrow and Continue with any searches Goodnight all Lesley :~)

Sara

Sara Report 20 Aug 2005 09:10

Hi i was wondering if you could find a marriage for Florence Sturgess Born 1894 Leicester. I know she probably married him between 1912 and 1920. She was widdowed early though as she married again I was wondering who he was. Also is there anyway you could find her parents marriage at all James E Sturgess born about 1860 Leicester married Sarah ? born 1870 about from middlesex. If there are any parents name that would be great thnx sara :)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 13:09

ROGER Here is Lucy's Birth Name: Barker, Lucy Ann Nipond Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1843 District: Chorley County: Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 347 ***************************** Here is Lucy's Death Name: BARKER, Lucy Ann Vipond Record Type: Deaths Quarter: March Year: 1844 District: Chorley County: Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 252 ***************************** So I will go and See if I can find Joseph with his Parents. Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 13:33

ROGER This Looks like Joseph Living with 2 of his Brothers? in 1861 ADDRESS:4 Walton Street.Preston.Lancs. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Frederic Barker abt 1837 Preston, Lancashire, England Head OCC:Tailor. Ellen Barker abt 1835 Inglenhite, Lancashire, England Wife OCC:Cotton ...??? >>>Joseph Barker abt 1843 Withnell, Lancashire, England Boarder OCC:Moulder Thomas Barker abt 1846 Withnell, Lancashire, England Lodger OCC:Moulder. >>>Although Birth place says Withnell, Withnell comes under Chorley District.<<< Civil parish: Preston Ecclesiatical parish: St James Town: Preston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG9/3128 Registration district: Preston Sub-registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 32 Page: 3 ************************************** This Is Joseph in 1871 with his Family ADDRESS:1 Oak Street.Preston.Lancs. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Joseph Barker abt 1844 Withnell, Lancashire, England Head OCC:Iron Moulder. Jane Barker abt 1842 Preston, Lancashire, England Wife OCC:Looks like Provision Lender??? Cathrine Barker abt 1864 Preston, Lancashire, England Daughter Charlotte Barker abt 1867 Preston, Lancashire, England Daughter Alfred Barker abt 1870 age 1 yr. Preston, Lancashire, England Son Alice J Barker abt 1870 age 4 months. Preston, Lancashire, England Daughter Hellen Green abt 1854 Preston, Lancashire, England Servant Civil Parish or Township: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Preston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG10/4203 Registration district: Preston Sub-registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 162 Page: 33 ******************************* Sorry It hasnt helped finding Parents though Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 13:42

ROGER This is Joseph's Childrens Births Name: BARKER, Catherine Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1864 District: Preston County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 499 ************************* Name: BARKER, Charlotte Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1866 District: Preston County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 492 ************************* Cant find Alfred's ************************* Name: Barker, Alice Jane Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1870 District: Preston County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 522 *************************** Hope these help Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 13:48

SARA This is the only marrige showing for James Sturgess 1889 +/- 5 yrs Name Year Quarter Record Type District County COOKE, Harriet 1889 September Marriages Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire Parrish, Florence Annie 1889 September Marriages Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire >>>>Sturgess, James Edward 1889 September Marriages Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire Woolastone, George 1889 September Marriages Leicester (1837-1974) Leicestershire ********************************** Sorry cant find Florence's Marriage.. ********************************* Back in a moment with more info lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 14:02

SARA This is James With his Parents & Siblings in 1871 ADDRESS:4 Raw... Yard. Oadby Leicestershire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship William Sturgess abt 1841 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Head OCC;Ag Lab. Lucy Sturgess abt 1842 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Wife Charles A Sturgess abt 1862 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son >>>James E Sturgess abt 1864 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son Elizabeth F Sturgess abt 1868 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Daughter John K Sturgess abt 1870 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son Mary J V Sturgess abt 1860 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Daughter Civil Parish or Township: Oadby Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough Town: Oadby County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Source information: RG10/3231 Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 54 Page: 5 *********************************** 1881 James still with Parents. ADDRESS:Lawn Ter, Oadby, Leicestershire, England Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship William Sturgess abt 1840 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Head OCC:Under ??? Serv! Lucy Sturgess abt 1842 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Wife >>>James E. Sturgess abt 1865 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son OCC:Errand Boy. John H. Sturgess abt 1869 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son Thomas E. Sturgess abt 1872 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son Charles W. Sturgess abt 1876 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Son Source information: RG11/3126 Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 101 Page: 15 ********************************** 1891 James with his Wife & Child ADDRESS:79 Main Road. Oadby Leicestershire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house >>>Sturgess, James E abt 1865 Oadby, Leicestershire, England Head OCC:Barber. Sturgess, Florence abt 1870 Long Sutton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Sturgess, Lilian E abt 1890 age 7 months. Oadby, Leicestershire, England Daughter Civil parish: Oadby Ecclesiastical parish: Oadby Town: Oadby County/Island: Leicestershire Source information: RG12/2498 Registration district: Blaby Sub registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Folio: 85 Page: 14 ************************************* Hope these help you... Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 14:06

SARA this is James Birth info Name: STURGESS, James Edward Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1864 District: Blaby County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 42 ********************************** BLABY Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Enderby; Wigston; Wigston Magna. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Aylestone (1837-91), Blaby, Braunstone (1837-91), Braunstone Frith, Cosby, Countesthorpe, Croft, East Wigston, Enderby, Foston, Freakes Ground (1862-91), Glenfield, Glenfield Frith, Glen Parva, Huncote, Kilby, Kirby Frith, Kirby Muxloe, Knighton (1837-91), Knoll and Bassett House, Leicester Forest East, Leicester Forest West, Lubbesthorpe, Narborough, New Found Pool (1862-91), New Parks (from 1862), >>>OADBY,<<< Potters Marston, Thurlaston, Whetstone, Wigston Magna. Registers now in Leicester district. Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 14:22

SARA I have just found this 1901 Census For James with Wife Sarah.... ADDRESS:33 St.James street.Leicester formerly St Margaret Leicestershire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>James Sturgess abt 1860 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head OCC:Clicker on Boot ??? Sarah Sturgess abt 1870 London, Middlesex, England Wife OCC:Cigar Maker Kate Sturgess abt 1889 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Daughter Elizabeth Sturgess abt 1891 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Daughter Leah Sturgess abt 1894 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Daughter Florrie Sturgess abt 1896 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Daughter Albert Sturgess abt 1898 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Son Grace Sturgess abt 1900 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Daughter Civil parish: Leicester formerly St Margaret Ecclesiatical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Source information: RG13/2989 Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Folio: 50 Page: 9 *********************************** Hang on this is why I couldnt find them before they have been Mistranscibed with Surname..... So Ignore Earlier Census's With Florence as Wife ***************************************** This is 1891 For James & Sarah & Kids.It is them as birth yrs match on 1901.When I look at Census Image it definately says Surname Sturgess. ADDRESS:8 Grove? Street. St Margaret Leicestershire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house >>>James E abt 1860 ??, Boro Head OCC:Shoe Hand. Stargell, Sarah abt 1869 ??, Hackney Wife OCC:Cigar Maker. Stargell, Kate abt 1889 ??, Hackney Daughter Stargell, Elizabeth abt 1890 ??, Hackney Daughter Stargell, Civil parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Leicestershire Source information: RG12/2531 Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 60 Folio: 134 Page: 16 Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 15:37

MUM What birth year did John give you for Annie Morgan? I cant find her birth anywhere or find any of them on any Census's. I have looked for Annie/Hannah/Anna/Anne/Ann/. I cant find Edwin there are loads and I have looked on census's and none of them are Quarrymen. Lesley :~)

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Aug 2005 17:01

lesley, if you go on to the letters he sends me you should get the answers you need. mum

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 17:31

MUM Have you got the 1881 Census with Edwin Wife & Annie? I have found a possibility..... Lesley :~)

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Aug 2005 21:11

lesley,i have albert james owen marriage cert. which say's edwin morgan was annie morgan 's father and he was a quarryman.mum

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 21:15

MUM Yes I know you have got that... I will put 1881 on here and take a look see what you think. Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 21:18

MUM I know on certificate it says Edwin was a Quarryman but he could have had different jobs... So we have to keep our options open Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 21:22

MUM Here is 1881. ADDRESS:Little Wenlock Dog In The Lane, Lt Wenlock, Shropshire, England Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Edwin Morgan abt 1837 Piclescot, Shropshire, England Head OCC:Labourer in Iron Works. Ann Morgan abt 1834 Lawley, Shropshire, England Wife Richard Morgan abt 1866 Dawley, Shropshire, England Son OCC:Farm Labourer. >>>Anne Morgan abt 1870 Dawley, Shropshire, England Daughter Rosetta Morgan abt 1874 Lawley, Shropshire, England Daughter Martha Morgan abt 1877 Lawley, Shropshire, England Daughter Source information: RG11/2637 Registration district: Madeley Sub-registration district: Madeley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 18 Page: 10 Annie is >>>Anne What do you think? Lesley :~)

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Aug 2005 21:24

annie morgan born in 1867 and married in 1896 in brigg in lincoln.i found an edwin morgan married to ann jones in little birch in 1866. might have found his father as well joseph morgan born in bromsgrove which could be a connection to flo being born there.mum

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 20 Aug 2005 21:35

MUM Little Birch is in Herefordshire & some parts of Monmouthshire. Why do you think thats them? Lesley :~)

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Aug 2005 22:02

annie was born in 1867 the cert. say's her age when married mum