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Hi Marion, These were the only two, and I don’t they are the right ones, sorry: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Joseph PALLETT Head M 35 M Book Keeper Ansley-War Elizabeth PALLETT Wife M 38 F House Keeper Wilnecote-War Joseph PALLETT Son U 14 M At School Ansley-War George PALLETT Son U 9 M At School Ansley-War Ann PALLETT Daur U 7 F At School Ansley-War Elizabeth PALLETT Daur U 6 F An Infant Nuneaton-War Address: Derby Lane, --- Census Place: Nuneaton Nuneaton, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2065 Folio: 17 Page: 11 FHL Film: 0087324 Perhaps she moved before her marriage? Nicola

Hi Terry, Yes, it's 13 John Street for the Stoke Damerel bunch! Here the Plympton ones: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Arthur B. PRINCE Head M 27 M Mason Plympton St Mary-Dev Lavinia PRINCE Wife M 28 F --- London N K-London John B. PRINCE Son - 2 M --- Totness-Dev Address: Bridge, Plympton St Mary Census Place: Plympton St Mary Plympton St Mary, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1877 Folio: 428 Page: 19 FHL Film: 0221025 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Sally PRINCE Head W 54 F --- Plympton St Mary-DEV William PRINCE Son U 22 M Game Keeper Plympton St Mary-DEV George PRINCE Son U 19 M Lab Plympton St Mary-DEV John Henry PRINCE Son U 17 M Lab Plympton St Mary-DEV Address: Park ((Lodge)) Cottage, Plympton St Mary Census Place: Plympton St Mary Plympton St Mary, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1877 Folio: 492 Page: 19 FHL Film: 0221025 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope these are the correct ones,since George and Arthur don't appear in the same household, Nicola

Hi Nicola Please could you look in the 1851c warwickshire for ELIZABETH PALLETT born Austrey,and about 20 years old. I think she could still be living there with her parents because she didnt marry untill the 2nd quarter of 1851 Thank you ---marion in oz

Thanks for such a quick reply Nicola. Yes I'd like to see the household details for the Plympton Princes (I'm a bit baffled by the first two, George can't be Arthur's son unless there's a misprint somewhere, as Arthur is only 8 years older!). I suspect the Stoke Damerell household is 13 John Street -- if I'm mistaken please send that too. Many thanks again Terry

Hi Terry, Let me know if you want the household listing for any of these: PRINCE, Arthur B. Head <1824> Plympton St Mary-Dev Plympton St Mary PRINCE, George Son <1832> Plympton St Mary-DEV Plympton St Mary PRINCE, John B. Son <1849> Totness-Dev Plympton St Mary PRINCE, John Henry Son <1834> Plympton St Mary-DEV Plympton St Mary PRINCE, Lavinia Wife <1823> London N K-London Plympton St Mary PRINCE, Sally Head <1797> Plympton St Mary-DEV Plympton St Mary PRINCE, William Son <1829> Plympton St Mary-DEV Plympton St Mary PRINCE, Ann Wife(Head) <1821> Cork-IRE Stoke Damerel PRINCE, James Son <1849> Anthony-CON Stoke Damerel PRINCE, Mary Vist <1795> Portsmouth-HAM Stoke Damerel PRINCE, William Son <1847> Stonehouse-DEV Stoke Damerel -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nicola

Hi Lesley (Suters), Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Elizabeth HOOPER Head W 83 F Pauper Burlescombe-DEV Address: Westleigh, Wellington Census Place: Burlescombe Wellington, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1921 Folio: 642 Page: 8 FHL Film: 0221077 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace James HOOPER Head M 36 M Ag Lab Burlescombe-DEV Maria HOOPER Wife M 33 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Dinah HOOPER Daur - 8 F Scholar Burlescombe-DEV Thomas HOOPER Son - 6 M Scholar Burlescombe-DEV Maria HOOPER Daur - 4 F Scholar Burlescombe-DEV Philip HOOPER Son - 2 M --- Burlescombe-DEV Roda HOOPER Daur - 2m F --- Burlescombe-DEV Address: Westleigh, Wellington Census Place: Burlescombe Wellington, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1921 Folio: 642 Page: 9 FHL Film: 0221077 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John HOOPER Head M 35 M Ag Lab Burlescombe-DEV Jane HOOPER Wife M 32 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Mary HOOPER Daur - 7 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Ann HOOPER Daur - 5 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Ellen HOOPER Daur - 3 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Frances HOOPER Daur - 8m F --- Burlescombe-DEV Address: Westleigh, Wellington Census Place: Burlescombe Wellington, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1921 Folio: 641 Page: 7 FHL Film: 0221077 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Richard HOOPER Head M 45 M Ag Lab Burlescombe-DEV Ann HOOPER Wife M 46 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Address: Westleigh, Wellington Census Place: Burlescombe Wellington, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1921 Folio: 646 Page: 16 FHL Film: 0221077 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Henry RADFORD Head M 27 M Chair Maker Master Emp 3 Men Burlescombe-DEV Ann Maria RADFORD Wife M 30 F --- Bath-SOM Ann M. RADFORD Daur - 4 F --- Burlescombe-DEV Thos. HOOPER Serv U 28 M Chair Maker Uffculme-DEV Address: Lamb Cottage, Wellington Census Place: Burlescombe Wellington, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1921 Folio: 660 Page: 14 FHL Film: 0221077 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope these turn out to be the ones that you are in search of! Nicola

Hi Lesley (Phillips) These were all the Thomas Francis's in Warwickshire: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Thomas FRANCIS Head M 73 M Shoemaker Knightcote-WAR Elisabeth FRANCIS Wife M 78 F --- Knightcote-WAR Job COWLEY Lodg U 27 M Ag Labourer Knightcote-WAR Address: Knightcote, Knightcote Census Place: Burton Dassett Southam, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2077 Folio: 400 Page: 19 FHL Film: 0087346 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Thomas FRANCIS Head M 58 M Engraver & Printer Birmingham-War Julina WEBSTER --- U 40 F House Keeper Birmingham-War George FRANCIS Son - 15 M Scholar Birmingham-War Jane CHINERY Vist U 18 F Dress Maker Birmingham-War Address: 45 Court Livery St, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2056 Folio: 309 Page: 54 FHL Film: 0332116 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Thomas FRANCIS Head M 55 M Agent Birmingham-WAR Harriett FRANCIS Wife M 49 F --- Coventry-WAR Harriett FRANCIS Daur U 21 F --- Birmingham Edgbaston-WAR Piddock FRANCIS Son U 14 M --- Birmingham Edgbaston-WAR Mary ELLIS Serv U 33 F House Serv Wellington-SHR Address: Portland Place 29, Warwick Census Place: Leamington Priors Warwick, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2072 Folio: 404 Page: 13 FHL Film: 0087337 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Thomas FRANCIS Head M 53 M Wharfinger Coal & Lime Wharf Teachbrook-WAR Mary FRANCIS Wife M 60 F --- ----NK Emma FRANCIS Daur U 24 F Dress Maker St Nicholas-WAR Henry FRANCIS Son - 4 M --- St Nicholas-WAR Jane FRANCIS Daur U 20 F Servant St Nicholas-WAR Address: Emscote Place, Warwick Census Place: Warwick St Nicholas Warwick, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2073 Folio: 502 Page: 5 FHL Film: 0087340 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Thomas FRANCIS Head M 35 M Watch Manufacturer Employ 4 Men Coventry-War Mary Ann FRANCIS Wife M 37 F --- Coventry-War John THOMPSON Cous U 16 M Apprentice Ashby-Northamptonshire Address: Craven Street, Coventry Census Place: Coventry St Michael Coventry, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2067 Folio: 671 Page: 8 FHL Film: 0087330 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Ann RIRLEY Head W 48 F Brass Collor Maker Birmingham-WAR Mary A. RIRLEY Daur M 25 M Brass Worker Birmingham-WAR Susan RIRLEY Daur U 18 F Tin Polisher Birmingham-WAR Thos. RIRLEY Son U 17 M Wood Turner Birmingham-WAR Lucy RIRLEY Daur U 14 F Scholar Birmingham-WAR James RIRLEY Son - 10 M Brassfounder Birmingham-WAR John RIRLEY Son - 5 M Scholar Birmingham-WAR Thomas FRANCIS Vist M 28 M Snuffer Dresser Birmingham-WAR William GROVES Vist U 33 M Jeweler Birmingham-WAR Betsy FRANCIS Vist - 3 F --- Birmingham-WAR Mary A. FRANCIS Vist - 1m F --- Birmingham-WAR Address: 2 House 2 Court Lionhill St, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2056 Folio: 327 Page: 23 FHL Film: 0332116 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Mary DAVIS Head W 50 F Provision Dealer Birmingham-War William DAVIS Son U 17 M Glass Cutter Birmingham-War Thomas FRANCIS SonL W 28 M Brass Founder Birmingham-War Mary FRANCIS Daur - 2 F Scholar Birmingham-War Emma FALKINBRIDGE Serv - 16 F --- Birmingham-War Address: 30 Ward St, --- Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2058 Folio: 852 Page: 15 FHL Film: 0332120 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Not sure if this will be of any help, sorry, Nicola

Hi Nicola (again) Last week you kindly sent me the Princes in Plymouth. It occurs to me that, by asking you for specifically "Plymouth" I will have missed those living in districts such as Plympton and Stoke Damerell. These are parts of Plymouth too and I know there should be a few of my relations lurking there somewhere. Can I ask you to take another look at those 2 places and let me know who you find? All your help greatly appreciated. Thanks Terry

Thanks for prior help with Hoopers of Burlescombe, Devon. Please could you list the households for Elizabeth Hooper <1768>, James Hooper <1815>, John Hooper <1816>, Richard Hooper <1806> and Thos. Hooper (Serv) <1823>. Many thanks. Lesley Suters.

Hi Ian, Could i please have a lookup for Thomas Francis in Warwick. other names maybe Ann, Catherine, Rosetta,John,Hugh,Mary or James. Thank you. Lesley

Nicola Thanks for the info looks like I will have to dig a little bit further to make sure I get the right one. Thanks for the time Best Wishes Barbara

Hi Barbara, I found 2 that were approx. 2 years old, give or take a year: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John KNIGHTS Head M 41 M Miller Farmer 16 Ac Emp 1 Boy Forncett-Nfk Sarah KNIGHTS Wife M 39 F Wife Bunwell-Nfk Bales KNIGHTS Son U 20 M Journeyman Miller Bunwell-Nfk Tabitha KNIGHTS Daur - 9 F --- Bunwell-Nfk Henry KNIGHTS Son - 1 M --- Carbrooke-Nfk Address: ---, Wayland Census Place: Carbrooke Wayland, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1823 Folio: 409 Page: 6 FHL Film: 0207477 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Henry KNIGHTS Head M 28 M Miller Farming 17 A Foncett St Peter-Nfk Maria KNIGHTS Wife M 27 F Millers Wife Bunwell-Nfk Horace KNIGHTS Son - 4 M --- Bunwell-Nfk Henry KNIGHTS Son - 2 M --- Carbrooke-Nfk William KNIGHTS Son - 3 M --- Carbrooke-Nfk William BOULTER Serv U 20 M Journy Miller Wramplingham-Nfk Sarah WELLS Serv U 13 F House Serv Carbrooke-Nfk Address: ---, Wayland Census Place: Carbrooke Wayland, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1823 Folio: 407 Page: 3 FHL Film: 0207477 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Nicola

Ian Thanks for looking up the Wards for me. Unfotunatly it deosn't seem to be the right fellow .But grateful for your effort Brian

Ian Can I please ask you to do a look up for me please on the 1851 Norfolk Census? I am looking for Henry H Knights, he would have been approx 2 he was born at Carbrook (Carbroke), Norfolk- sorry not sure of the spelling. Hope you can help. Barbara

Hi Marie, There were 3 John and Lucy Powells together, but only 2 of them had a daughter called Mary: John POWELL Head M 52 M Relief From Parish Club Branstone Or Braunston-NTH Lucy POWELL Wife - 36 F Pauper Gretworth-NTH Mary POWELL Daur U 4 F Pauper Woolscott-WAR Jane POWELL Daur U 2 F Pauper Barby-NTH Charlotte POWELL Daur U 4m F Pauper Willoughby-WAR Edmund CHESTER SonL U 8 M Pauper Mason-NTH William POWELL Fath W 82 M Pauper Badby-NTH Richard ISSOM Vist M 38 M Ag Labourer Gretworth-NTH Matthew ISSOM Vist U 26 M Ag Labourer Gretworth-NTH Address: ---, Rugby Census Place: Willoughby Rugby, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2070 Folio: 251 Page: 11 FHL Film: 0087334 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John POWELL Head M 44 M Carpenter Hintland-HEF Lucy POWELL Wife M 45 F --- Byford-HEF Thomas POWELL Son U 22 M Carpenter Much Mansell-HEF William POWELL Son U 19 M No Trade Little Birch-HEF John POWELL Son U 15 M Scholar Little Birch-HEF Christifer POWELL Son U 13 M Scholar Little Birch-HEF James POWELL Son U 10 M Scholar Petterchurch-HEF Isaac POWELL Son - 6 M Scholar Little Birch-HEF Mary Ann POWELL Daur - 3 F --- Walford-HEF Address: Sherbourne St, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2051 Folio: 268 Page: 27 FHL Film: 0087306 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John POWELL Head M 52 M Cabinet Maker Birmingham-WAR Lucy POWELL Wife M 57 F --- Birmingham-WAR Joseph POWELL Son U 21 M Cabinet Maker Birmingham-WAR Henry PARTRIDGE SonL M 27 M Cabinet Maker Birmingham-WAR Edward PARTRIDGE SonL U 25 M Brass Founder Birmingham-WAR Thomas PARTRIDGE SonL U 22 M Brass Founder Birmingham-WAR George PARTRIDGE SonL U 17 M Glass Maker Birmingham-WAR John SMITH Lodg U 37 M Brass Founder Litchfield-HAM Address: Cozells Street No 6, Birmingham - Lady Wood Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham - Lady Wood, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2051 Folio: 54 Page: 52 FHL Film: 0087306 --------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps your search, Nicola

please could you have a look for john and lucy powell. daughter mary powell was christened 25/mar/1849 willoughby warwickshire. sorry thats all the info i have. thanks in advance marie

Hi Nicola, Thank so much for the lookup and the trouble you went to searching different names its a fantastic help. kind regards louise

Hi Barbara, I couldn't find an Asaloms, so i tried a few similar names, of any age and living in Birmingham: Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Absalom HANDS Head M 29 M Shop Keeper & Coal Dealer Hanbury-WOR Sarah HANDS Wife M 29 F --- Birmingham-WAR Mary A. HANDS Daur - 7 F --- Birmingham-WAR Sarah A. HANDS Daur - 2 F --- Birmingham-WAR Absalom HANDS Son - 2 M --- Birmingham-WAR Address: Steward St, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2051 Folio: 362 Page: 26 FHL Film: 0087306 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps Nicola

Hi nicola; Sorry to trouble you again you are such a help can you please look up Asalom Hands on 1851 living in Birmingham Steward st. many thanks Barbara

Hi Nicola, Many thanks for the Princes of Plymouth --- a few there that I'd never heard of before. I can see a few late hours ahead of me whilst I get to know them. Cheers Terry