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Brenda

Brenda Report 6 Sep 2007 17:20

HI JANE THANKS FOR THE HELP YOU HAVE GIVEN ME SO FAR I HAVE THE MARRIAGE CERT IY STATES ALICE BALMER CLAYSON FATHER JOHN BALMER IT SAYS SHE WAS 24 IN 1907 WHICH MAKES HER BORN IN 1833 AND NOT 1879 AS IT SAYS ON THE 81 CENCUS I JUST CANT MAKE OUT WHY SHE WAS CALLED CLAYSON AND NOT BALMER ALSO WHY SHE WAS A VISITOR AT THE HOUSEHOLD AND NOT STATED AS DAUGHTER IF SHE DID BELONG TO JOHN BALMER IT TO ME IS A COMPLETE MYSTERY .I ALSO CANT FIND HER BIRTH MOTHERS NAME .CAN YOU HELP AGAIN ?I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD REGARDS BRENDA

Jane

Jane Report 6 Sep 2007 20:31

Hi Karen

1891 - The Vicarage, Mill st

Isabella Baker abt 1871 Bletchington, Oxfordshire, England Servant Kidlington Oxfordshire
Louisa Collis abt 1864 Witney, Oxfordshire, England Servant Kidlington Oxfordshire
Rose E Dawson abt 1876 Clapham, Bedfordshire, England Servant Kidlington Oxfordshire
Albert C R Freeborn abt 1860 Oxfordshire, England Head Kidlington Oxfordshire CLERK OF HOLY ORDERS
Charles F Freeborn abt 1890 Biddenham, Bedfordshire, England Son Kidlington Oxfordshire
John J R Freeborn abt 1888 Kidlington, Oxfordshire, England Son Kidlington Oxfordshire
Miriam E Freeborn abt 1859 Biddenham, Bedfordshire, England Wife Kidlington Oxfordshire


1901 - St Edwards School

John Howard Richard Freeborn abt 1888 Kidlington, Oxfordshire, England, Boarder, St Giles Oxfordshire


1891 GREVILLE HOUSE, LANDSDOWNE CRES.

Emma Clarke abt 1869 Tibberton, Worcestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire Frank C Davidson abt 1875 Gosport, Hampshire, England Boarder Great Malvern Worcestershire
Emily Harris abt 1869 Droitwich, Worcestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire
Catherine M Holme abt 1879 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Visitor Great Malvern Worcestershire
Mabel M Holme abt 1868 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Great Malvern Worcestershire
Emily Jones abt 1862 Llantillio, Monmouthshire, Wales Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire
Agnes M Mayers abt 1867 Pinvin, Worcestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire
Gay F Romer abt 1890 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Great Malvern Worcestershire
Henry S Romer abt 1862 London, Middlesex, England Head Great Malvern Worcestershire
Marjorie S Romer abt 1890 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Great Malvern Worcestershire
Thomas Taylor abt 1875 Sapley, Worcestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire


1901 -ENDERLEY

Catherine M Holme abt 1879 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Great Malvern Worcestershire
Dorothy W Holme abt 1883 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Great Malvern Worcestershire
George J Holme abt 1843 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Great Malvern Worcestershire DENTAL SURGEON / WIDOW
Annie Newman abt 1879 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire
Alice A Seaman abt 1880 Kempsey, Worcestershire, England Servant Great Malvern Worcestershire

GenieAngel

GenieAngel Report 6 Sep 2007 20:47

Hi again Jane,

Could you please look up the following family in the 1851 1861 & 1871 census

Henry Still b 1814 East Malling, Kent
Matilda Still b ?
Betsey b 1841 East Malling, Kent

Matilda died in 1855, so possibly in the later census he has a different wife

Thank you
Liz

*Karen*

*Karen* Report 6 Sep 2007 20:57

Thank you Jane!!!
Would it be possible to look-up the details of the household below in 1891 please?? Also, is it possible to know who John Freeborn was boarding with in 1901, and I assume he was a scholar at the school?? Many thanks for all your help Jane! Kind regards, Karen

1891 - Dorathy W Holme... Father: George J... Birth: abt 1883 Worcestershire... Residence: Worcestershire

Jane

Jane Report 6 Sep 2007 21:44

Brenda,


now...... lol. where do i start, lol

i have searched more for you........

FreeBMD birth records are complete for 1879, 1882 & 1883, so Alice would have shown up on that....
i have searched Ancestrys BMD's but there are only 2 quarters in 1880 & 1881 each, and she's not there either....... not sure why i can't get the other 2 quarters of each year though.......

have searched census' again, and nothing similar in either surname........
so i think, for what its worth, lol, that we had the right girl before.......

don't worry too much about her age, dont forget that people were mainly illiterate(?) back then, so nobody knew how old they were or anything........ in 1901 census she was born 1881....

my theory is....... that she was illegitimate, which is why she had her fathers surname as a middle name, that was quite usual, and also why that on the census with John she was named as visitor not daughter, as she had a different surname......

but what happened to her mother, i don't know !!!!

i have tried looking for a John Balmer marrying a Clayson, but theres nothing in the whole country!

dont really know what else i can suggest...... waiting for 1911 isn't going to help, we cant find her birth.....

ooh just thought, lol are you local to Liverpool?

because the parish records might help, searching for a baptism, which names parents, and also you could try bastardly bonds....... abit like paying maintenace to illegitimate children.

worth a try??? if you're not local, try a Liverpool site, and some kind soul might look it up for you.....

Jane

Jane Report 6 Sep 2007 21:56

Hey Liz........

how you doing???


1851 - DUKE(?) LANE

Betsey Still abt 1842 East Malling, Kent, England Daughter Rochester St Margaret Kent
Henry Still abt 1813 East Malling, Kent, England Head Rochester St Margaret Kent LABOURER
Matilda Still abt 1813 Devon, England Wife Rochester St Margaret Kent

1861 - The Square

Francis Felton abt 1860 Strood, Kent, England Son Strood Kent
James Felton abt 1857 Strood, Kent, England Son Strood Kent
Jane Felton abt 1822 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Head Strood Kent
Maria Felton abt 1854 Strood, Kent, England Daughter Strood Kent
William Felton abt 1850 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Son Strood Kent
Henry Hill abt 1814 East Malling, Kent, England Lodger Strood Kent GRAVEL PIT LABOURER / UNMARRIED !!


1871 - CHURCH ST.

Frances Feltham abt 1861 Strood, Kent, England Son Strood Kent
James Feltham abt 1857 Strood, Kent, England Son Strood Kent
Jane Feltham abt 1821 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Strood Kent
Lilas Feltham abt 1864 Strood, Kent, England Son Strood Kent
Maria Feltham abt 1854 Strood, Kent, England Daughter Strood Kent
William Feltham abt 1851 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England Son Strood Kent
Henry Still abt 1814 East Malling, Kent, England Lodger Strood Kent LABOURER / WIDOW

no sign of Betsey though in 1861+, but suppose she could have been married now........

Jane xx

Jane

Jane Report 6 Sep 2007 22:06

Karen


1891 - 1 Glen Villas

George J Holme abt 1842 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Leigh Worcestershire DENTIST
Dorathy W Holme abt 1883 Malvern Link, Worcestershire, England Daughter Leigh Worcestershire
Gerald P Holme abt 1879 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Leigh Worcestershire
Sarah E Holme abt 1847 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Leigh Worcestershire
Eliza Whittall abt 1867 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Servant Leigh Worcestershire


Re: John Freeborn in 1901, he was a boarder in a school, and didn't list them for you as there was pages & pages of them !!


Jane

Brenda

Brenda Report 6 Sep 2007 22:15

THANK YOU JANE I LIVE IN HAMPSHIRE SO I WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT I CAN FIND OUT ON SITE IT WILL BE QUITE FUNNY IF SHE WAS BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK AS MY DADS FATHER AND MY AUNTS WERE SUCH PROODS MY AUNT DID SAY THAT SHE WAS BORN ON CHRISTMAS DAY AND HER MOTHER DIED THAT DAY .I AM WONDERING IF MAYBE SHE BELONGED TO JONHS DAUGHTER MARY JANE OR MAYBE ONE OF HIS SISTERS AND HE BROUGHT HER UP AS HIS OWN OR MAYBE SHE WAS BORN IN CANADA BECAUSE I CAN SORT OF REMEMBER MY DAD SAYING EITHER HIS MOTHER OR GRANDMOTHER WAS A FRENCH CANADIAN AND THAT MAYBE WHY HIS PARENTS WENT TO CANADA WHERE MY FATHER WAS BORN ANY WAY I AM REALLY REALLY GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE .I WILL JUST HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING AT THEIR WEDDING GROUP AND HOPING ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WILLGIVE SOME SORT OF SIGN THATKS ONCE MORE BRENDA

*Karen*

*Karen* Report 7 Sep 2007 09:03

THANKS again Jane!!! Kind regards, Karen

GenieAngel

GenieAngel Report 7 Sep 2007 09:19

Hi Jane,

Thank you very much for those. Now that looks interesting
Can you tell me what Jane Feltham's marital status is please lol. Betsey didn't marry until 1866 I wonder where she could be. That was a good spot for Henry in the 1861 a popular mistranscription of the name

A zillion thanks to you

Liz

Jane

Jane Report 7 Sep 2007 11:05

Hi Liz

Jane was a widow in both years..........


had another look for Betsey , tried every variation of Elizabeth, tried no first name, no surname, then no names - only East Malling & still nothing !!!

so..... pass !!

Jane x

Joan

Joan Report 7 Sep 2007 12:31

Hello again Jane,
Can you help me find a George Scott in 1841 and 1861 in the Scottish Borders please.In 1851 he was a sixteen year old shepherd living in a house called Pockheive in Eskdalemuir,Dumfriesshire but born in Ettrick,Selkirk.The family he was with in Eskdalemuir in 1851 were called Little.
Sorry there is not much to go on .
Regards,
Joan

Jane

Jane Report 7 Sep 2007 22:01

Hi Joan


1861

Cathrie Brown abt 1841 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Niece Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
David Brown abt 1858 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Son Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
Jane Brown abt 1821 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Wife Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
Jean Brown abt 1847 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Daughter Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
John Brown abt 1820 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Head Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
William Brown abt 1845 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Son Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
James Henry abt 1814 Tinwald, Dumfriesshire Servant Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
John Henry abt 1831 Kirkpatrick Juxta, Dumfriesshire Servant Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
Robert Jarchow abt 1832 Johnstone, Dumfriesshire Servant Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire
***** George Scott abt 1835 Ettrick, Selkirkshire Lodger Kirkpatrick Juxta Dumfriesshire



can't be too sure of 1841 though, theres a few of them, lol

George Scott abt 1836 Selkirkshire, Scotland Selkirk Selkirkshire
George Scott abt 1837 Selkirkshire, Scotland Selkirk Selkirkshire
George Scott abt 1833 Selkirkshire, Scotland Selkirk Selkirkshire
George Scott abt 1837 Selkirkshire, Scotland Selkirk Selkirkshire
George Scott abt 1835 Selkirkshire, Scotland Yarrow Selkirkshire
George Scott abt 1836 Selkirkshire, Scotland Ashkirk Selkirkshire


do you have any clues that i could maybe narrow them down a bit with??

GenieAngel

GenieAngel Report 8 Sep 2007 01:37

Hi Jane,

Thank you ever so much for looking for Betsey, she did marry as Elizabeth, but hey you tried every trick in the book and still nothing. I am grateful for all your help.

Liz x

Sharon

Sharon Report 8 Sep 2007 02:56

Hi Jane,

Any chance you could find out any information about my great grandmother Ellen Adams nee Reeves? She was born around 1889 and married Harry Adams born around 1889. They lived together in Bexhill, Hastings,East sussex. She may have been born there but i'm not sure.
I am trying to trace her parents and any siblings she may have had.
I'm also trying to find out where she was born and when she and Harry were married.

Any info much appreciated
Regards
Sharon

Joan

Joan Report 8 Sep 2007 10:56

Hi Jane,
I appreciate the help.I'm chasing rainbows probably with this George Scott.This is the story.I have an ancestor Thomas Little living in Pockheive,or Pocklieve) Eskdalemuir in 1830/ 31 .His wife died in '31 and he emigrated to Canada.His sister Henrietta Little married a William Scott in Ettrick,Selkirk in 1830.They too moved to the same township in Canada sometime in the 1830s.They had a daughter Elizabeth in Ettrick in 1830 and I have them having sons Matthew,William,Thomas in Canada but no reg.of a George.Back in Scotland another family of Littles (James Little )occupied Pocklieve in 1841.I haven't managed to fit them into my tree but it's a bit of a coincidence and I feel there must be a connection-maybe James was a cousin of my Thomas and Henrietta .In 1851 the younger members of the family are still in that house along with this George Scott.Another coincidence is that James was married to an Elizabeth Murray and the Thomas who emigrated went with a second wife,Janet Murray.I was hoping I'd find maybe a marriage for George that might give me parents' names.Very tortuous I'm afraid.Your list of George Scott births does not include Ettrick so I guess I'm barking up the wrong tree.
Many thanks again,
Joan

Brenda

Brenda Report 8 Sep 2007 15:19

HELLO AGAIN JANE WOULD YOU MIND DOING ANOTHER COUPLE OF LOOK UPS FOR ME ?FIRST ONE IS GEORGE TIPLADY BORN 1801 IN RICHMOND HE WAS MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HE HAD ANY SIBLINGS AND ALSO WHO HIS CHILDREN ELIZABETH BORN 1841 AND MARY BORN 1838 MARRIED THEY TOO WERE BORN IN RICHMOND THANKS JANE BRENDA

Jane

Jane Report 8 Sep 2007 21:55

Hi Brenda


1841 - Castle Hill

Edward Tiplady abt 1836 Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire
Eleanor Tiplady abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire
Elizabeth Tiplady abt 1840 ( 10 mths old) Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire
George Tiplady abt 1801 Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire CARRIER
Mary Tiplady abt 1838 Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire
View Record Thomas Tiplady abt 1834 Yorkshire, England Richmond Yorkshire


1851 - Castle Hill

Edward Tiplady abt 1836 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire
Elizabeth Tiplady abt 1841 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire
Ellen Tiplady abt 1808 North Cowton, Yorkshire, England Wife Richmond Yorkshire
George Tiplady abt 1801 Durham, England Head Richmond Yorkshire CARRIER
James Tiplady abt 1847 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire
Jane Tiplady abt 1849 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire
John Tiplady abt 1845 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire
Mary Tiplady abt 1838 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire
Thomas Tiplady abt 1834 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire


1861 New Biggin

Mary Metcalfe abt 1798 North Cowton, Yorkshire, England StepDaughter Richmond Yorkshire
Ellen Tiplady abt 1808 North Cowton, Yorkshire, England Wife Richmond Yorkshire
George Tiplady abt 1801 Durham, England Head Richmond Yorkshire CARRIER
George Edward Tiplady abt 1858 Blowhouse, Yorkshire, England Grandson Richmond Yorkshire
James Tiplady abt 1847 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire
Jane Tiplady abt 1850 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire
John Tiplady abt 1844 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Son Richmond Yorkshire


NOW WAS A BIT WORRIED ABOUT MARY METCALFE BEING STEP DAU........ BUT IT DOES SAY WIFES SISTER ON ORIGINAL !!!!!


1871

Arthur Graham abt 1861 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Grandson Leeds Yorkshire
Dorothy Graham abt 1811 North Cowton, Yorkshire, England Wife Leeds Yorkshire
Mary H Graham abt 1848 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds Yorkshire
Thomas Graham abt 1810 Auckland, Durham, England Head Leeds Yorkshire
Thomas Graham abt 1850 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds Yorkshire
Jane Tiplady abt 1849 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Niece Leeds Yorkshire

1881 - New Beggin

Thompson Blenkiron abt 1831 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Lodger Richmond Yorkshire
Ellen Tiplady abt 1808 Cowton North, Yorkshire, England Head Richmond Yorkshire WIDOW / TAKES IN LODGERS
Jane Tiplady abt 1849 Richmond, Yorkshire, England Daughter Richmond Yorkshire


Can't find Ellen in 1871 i'm afraid..... or marriages for Elizabeth & Mary either

Jane

Jane Report 8 Sep 2007 22:23

Hi Sharon


Marriages Dec 1912
-----------------------------

Adams Harry Reeves Battle 2b 124
Reeves Ellen A Adams Battle 2b 124


can't see her in a census though, quite a common name.....
so would recommend purchasing the above marriage certificate so fathers details would help us.

Jane


*♥~♥~Mellie~♥~♥*

*♥~♥~Mellie~♥~♥* Report 8 Sep 2007 22:47

hi jane,
(remember me)
i have another tricky one for you o.k
i'm trying to find my g nan AMY L WATSON and thats about all i know, she was married to my g granddad ARTHUR YATES they got married in lambeth in 1924. i think the l is for louise (remember someone saying it, but not 100%) i also think she was born around 1901 1902 sometime.
this is all the info i have, any ideas or thoughts?

many thanks
mel