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Camille

Camille Report 29 Aug 2007 08:51

Hi again Ian/ Ceri,

Would be very grateful if you could find a marriage for :-
James Parsons B. c1783 Tidmarsh, Berks. to

Mary Jeffries B. c1786 Hants.

Many thanks , anything else you can find would be a bonus !

Lulli x

Joan

Joan Report 29 Aug 2007 11:53

Hello Ian,
Can you help me check the 1851 census for a Matthew Little,unmarried shepherd ,born 1830 Ettrick,Selkirk.Likely to be in Selkirk,Peebles ,Roxburgh or Dumfriesshire. Grateful for any possible help.
Joan.

IssyB

IssyB Report 29 Aug 2007 21:10

Helli Ceri

Thank you for looking. Pontardulais is the town given as the place where Samuel Morgan was living prior to leaving Wales. He sailed from Southampton. I think that his wife Margaret may have moved in with her family at Llangyfalach while waiting for Samuel to send for her. I can only assume that she too sailed from Southampton. Just trying to get a complete picture of the family. I know that they eventually settled in Mansfield, Ohio and lived there for many years,

Best regards, Isobel

cane

cane Report 29 Aug 2007 23:04

just to say thank-you and to let you know.i have found all details for my soldier on the commonwealth war graves commonssion.even parents.i feel so lucky.
thanks once again
gwen x

ps...have found the family on the 1901 census...here comes the spooky bit.....they lived just a couple of streets away from where i am living now.

Toni

Toni Report 29 Aug 2007 23:15

Hi Ian
I am trying to trace my grandfather's side of the family but he was orphaned at a young age and we believe he lived with an aunt. I have the death cert for him but no further datails on parents. His name George Albert PERHAM (son of Albert PERHAM nfd) born 21/09/1919. He married a Hazel Joyce Haywood in 1945 (i have certificate) they had one son (my father) Terence Albert PERHAM deceased 24/12/76. The marriage cert has a witness by the name of Bertie Daniel DRAKE (this could be the uncle). Do not have any further details. can you assist? Many thanks

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(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯) Report 30 Aug 2007 00:03

Hi Ceri.Ian,

Thank you for the offer,especially since you're so busy.

On the 1871 i have Alexander White 28 Bootcloser (b Manchester) with his wife Annie (Machinist (b Liverpool) and their 3 children aged 5,3 and 8 months, Address at this time was 15 Mather Street Bootle Lancs.
On the 1881 i have Alexander (39 (still a Bootcloser)with a wife Martha A (37 (b Liverpool) with 3 children aged 12, 8 and 9 days, address at the time was 6 1 Beau Street Liverpool.
Is there any chance of you finding the marriage/death of Annie to Alexander and the marriage of Martha A to Alexander?
I know it's a long shot as White is a very common name, but anything you can find would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Jean

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 11:53

Hi Brenda i have replied to your PM regarding your relatives Alice Balmer Clayson and John Herbert Tiplady, if you need anything else let me know.
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 12:46

Hi Jane
This is a weird one, this is the only E Thwaites that could be her.
Name: Mrs E THWAITES
Date of departure: 11 July 1919
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Age: (no age shown other than adult)
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: (none shown)
Passenger recorded on: Page 24 of 36
The following person travelled on this voyage with Mrs Thwaites: -
Male Child (aged between 1 and 12) THWAITES Page 24 of 36
Ship: MELITA
Official Number: 136367
Master's name: Henry Parry
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific Railway Atlantic Steamship Line.
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 30320
Registered tonnage: 8525
Passengers on voyage: 649

Now, for what is strange about it!
firstly no age given for any of the passengers on this voyage other than adult or child!
secondly all the passengers on this voyage are all women and children, no men at all!
thirdly at the top of the actual page of the passenger list written in pencil, it says 'military dependents'

Is it possible that William got sent to war? or was in the military services at all?

Hope this helps
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 12:57

Lulli
I believe i have told you before, but my BMD records only start from 1837, as the relatives you are looking for were born in the 1780's the likelyhood is that they were married end of 1700's - very beginning of 1800's.
Therefore i will not be able to locate their marriage etc.
Sorry
Ceri

Jane

Jane Report 30 Aug 2007 12:59

Hi Ceri,
I wondered if William was military. Will check him out next. As for the child, they had 2 sons...so I'm off to see births for Thwaites/Checkett...thank heavens they married after 1911.
My James has been found..well the death and a year of him emigrating (1910), plus he had a sister with him then...my money is on Kitty (Catherine)
Thank you for your time...given me a kick to get back with my own family stragglers :0)))
Hope all's well with you xx

Effie

Effie Report 30 Aug 2007 13:00

Ian
My Grandfather Henry James Oxley 1890 was in the Hussars thats the only information I have. Would you please look at the Military records for me. He was born in Holborn London.
Regards Linda

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 13:10

Hi Joan
I dont have access to 1851 census but can confirm that he is definately on it living in Northumberland, his relationship to head of household is an employee, but unfortunately as i do not have full access to the 1851 census this is all it provides me with. I f you contact someone that has ancestry they will be able to look up the full entry for you.

This could be him in 1841 though.
1841 census - household transcription
Person: LITTLE, Matthew
Address: Broadwood Hall, Low, Allendale, Allendale Town
LITTLE, Hannah F 60 Northumberland
LITTLE, John M 20 Northumberland
LITTLE, Nancey F 15 Northumberland
LITTLE, Hannah F 14 Northumberland
LITTLE, Matthew M 10 Northumberland
LITTLE, Sarah F 9 Northumberland
RG number:HO107 Piece:837 Folio:32\64 Page:9
Registration District:Hexham Union
Sub District:Allendale

Sorry i couldnt be of more help.
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 13:21

Gwen
Glad i could help.
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 14:09

Toni
I think you are in luck!!!!
This would appear to be George's birth record!
Name: George A Perham
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Drake
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 278

This is George's father and mother marriage record!
Name: Albert Perham
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Name: Violet E A Drake
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 271

In view of this, George's parents were Albert Perham and Violet E A Drake!

I would say that this is Violet's Birth record.
Name: Violet Emily A Drake
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Romford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 358

This looks like Albert on the 1891 census with his parents and siblings!
1891 census - household transcription
Person: PERHAM, Albert
Address: 41, Benges Street, Canning Town, West Ham
PERHAM, Charles Head Married M 39 Dock Labourer London
PERHAM, Emily Wife Married F 29 Shorditch, London
PERHAM, Charles Son Single M 14 Scholar
Deptford, Kent
PERHAM, Emily Daughter F 13 Scholar, Stratford, Essex
PERHAM, Albert Son M 4 Poplar, Essex
PERHAM, Rosetta Daughter F 2 Poplar, Essex
RG number:RG12 Piece:1318 Folio:133 Page:21
Registration District:West Ham
Sub District:West Ham
EnumerationDistrict:13
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Lukes

This looks like Albert's birth record!!
Name: Albert Perham
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 613

Hope this helps
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 14:33

Hi Jean
This is a long shot because as you say White is a extremely common name! Also i guess we have no real confirmation that she definately died during the two census dates rather than Alex and her got divorced or similar.
However dispite this, i did a search for all Annie White's that died in Lancashire between 1871 and 1881, and the following is the only one that was an adult at the time of death (the others are aged between 0 and 3yrs old at time of death)!!

Name: Annie White
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 32
District: Warrington
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 113

This would appear to be Alex and Martha marriage
Name: Alexander Garthside White
Spouses Name: Martha Archer Sidwell
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 590


This looks like Alex and Annies marriage
Name: Alexander White
Spouses Name:Annie Griffiths
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 267

Hope this helps
Ceri

ceri

ceri Report 30 Aug 2007 14:38

Linda
Sorry nothing for Henry Oxley born London. ceri

Toni

Toni Report 30 Aug 2007 22:41

Ceri

Thank you very much this is a great help and lots to digest. I am new to all this having just lost all my grandparents i realised we didn't really know much about our family name, it's origin or anything to be honest. I'm sure i'll be in touch again for further assistance once I've slotted all this in.

Thanks again
Toni

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(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯) Report 30 Aug 2007 23:31

Hi Ceri,

Thank you for the info on the White family.
Regards

Jean

(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯)

(¯`*•.¸Scousenana.•*´¯) Report 30 Aug 2007 23:38

Hi Ceri, Asking for your help again please.

I have James Povey bc 1870 Wem Shropshire, his parents are Thomas bc 1826 Holart Cheshire and Mary bc 1838 Wem Shropshire.
That is the only info i have on them. Anything you can find on Thomas and/or Mary before James was born would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Regards

Jean

Joan

Joan Report 31 Aug 2007 10:12

Thanks for the look-up Ceri but I have my Matthew Little in Ettrick Selkirk in 1841 and again in 1861 so doubt he could be in Northumberland in 1851 though you never know.Problem is the name is very common.
Best wishes,
Joan