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emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 3 Sep 2007 23:14

Parish Records for toxteth park churches without going to Liverpool?

They would have to include 1889-1896 records for baptisms.

If anybody has any ideas i would be grateful if they could share them with me.

I have looked on The Lancashire Online Parish Clerk they don't have Toxteth Parks Churches.

Many thanks
Lorraine.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 3 Sep 2007 23:15

What information are you looking for? Specific names or birth/marriage etc

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 3 Sep 2007 23:44

Hi Wayne

I am looking for the BAPTISM of Emily Dorothy Williams about1891 somewhere

In Toxteth .


She is elusive thus my name.

Many thanks
Lorraine

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 00:06

Emily Williams
Female


Event(s):
Birth:

Christening: 06 NOV 1891 St Peter'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: Richard Williams Family
Mother: Annie Williams

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 00:29

Thats amazing how did you do that? Save me a fortune going to Liverpool.

So this Emily wasn't Emily Dorothy

Where do i go from here any ideas.

That is the one i had in mind but it emily dorothy i was hoping to see her baptised.
If you come across An Emily Dorothy Williams preferably father Benjamin or mother single woman please please give me a shout.

But thanks that was brilliant! At least i know that before i go off down that line.

Much appreciated Wayne

Lorraine



WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 00:38

there are many listed in the liverpool area for that date ish... that was the nearest one to your request...
Let me go look more indepth for you

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 00:45

Gee thanks Wayne, wasn't being

ungrateful that was the family i had like

i said i was hoping that even though the

birth certificate said emily i was hoping

that Emily Dorothy was the name she

was baptised with.

I had this plan you see, that Richards

(who was away at sea at the time)

brother Benjamin got Annie Pregnant

and Richard registered the baby as his.

Never mind LOL.

Dream on.

Many thanks

Lorraine.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 00:47

could this be her?

Births Sep 1891
WILLIAMS Emily Margaret Toxteth Park 8b 178

Births Dec 1891
Williams Emily Toxteth Park 8b 194


Births Dec 1893
Williams Emily Toxteth Park 8b 206

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 00:49

Afraid not Wayne.

This is my tale.

following

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 00:58

Emily Dorothy Williams supposedly born liverpool lancashire in 1891.

Moved down to Monmouthshire South Wales.

She was living at 6 amoury terrace Ebbw vale when she married A John George Worgan At Sirhowy register office in december 1910.

They went to live in Rose terrace beaufort ebbw vale.

I saw her on the 1911 census ( yes 1911 i sent to national archives)
with her husband John G Worgan.

At her marriage The dec before it said she was 19 on the 1911 she was 20

On the wedding certificate it says her father is Benjamin Williams Marine engineer.

That seems unlikely as John George was a brickmaker and that seemed a bit of an imprudent marriage for her to make.

Then she had a son a week later she was dead.

The death was 20 march 1912.

The child was given away to an aunt and that was that.

I cannot seem to locate a birth certificate with a benjamin as father

I have several emily birth certifiactes

even emily dorothy 1895 toxteth park.

have just sent for some which are unlikely but i have to do something.

Thanks for helping
Lorraine

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 01:10

do you know the name of the son? did she die as a result of complications of chilbirth?

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 01:13

Hi Wayne yes the son is my husbands father.

He is dead now and he wouldn't talk about it.

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 01:15

We found his mothers name on a birth certificate so then i could look for the marriage .

I am certain that i have the right couple because the aunt who brought him up is a witness on there along with Kate Barnett another mystery woman.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 01:16

is this your John George?


Births Dec 1882
Worgan John George Chepstow 11a 14

Hate to make matters worse for you, i had a similar problem only Monday just gone, a lady named on my partners Gfathers cert as the mum had a completely different name to that she was born with! she called herself Annie Higgins, she was in fact Mary Ann Jordan, seems she married before and aparently it's quite correct to put your last known name down as the maiden name and not in fact the name she was born with. Could she have been previously married and hence her stated maiden name is not actually hers?

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 01:18

Sorry just went for a cuppa

Yes thats him

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 01:25

forgive me if i seem methodical...

this is the marriage?


Dec 1910
Williams Emily D Bedwelty 11a 228
Worgan John G Bedwellty 11a 228

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 01:26

Thats fine yes thats the couple

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 01:28

is this the child?


Births Mar 1912

WORGAN Albert J G Williams Crickhowell 11b 155

emily is driving me dotty

emily is driving me dotty Report 4 Sep 2007 01:29

yes that the man

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Sep 2007 01:31

Births Sep 1891 (>99%)


WILLIAMS Emily Dorothy Stepney 1c 436