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Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 20 Oct 2008 19:20

Hi Dionne

Great to see some more info being added - what a great find by Ann! :-)))

I did post this info back last year and it does kind of match with the child Edwin so may be worth getting?

Edwin William Livermore - dob 14 Sep 1911 - Death Q4 1972 Hillingdon.



Jennifer Report 20 Oct 2008 19:02

Oh my gosh Dionne... only checked your thread at lunch time to see if there were any developments!..first time in a few weeks... just don't know what to say.. how fabulous...
Kind regards, Jennifer


WayneTracey Report 20 Oct 2008 18:54

I was wondering whether Edwin was part of the ships crew?


Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Oct 2008 18:44

Is it possible that Edwin travelled back with his regiment and the wives and families travelled back separately.


WayneTracey Report 20 Oct 2008 18:27


Here is a pic of the Breamar Castle....

Tracey x


WayneTracey Report 20 Oct 2008 18:14

How exciting.... yes this is the one.

Name: Miss Dorothea Livermore
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 4
Port of Departure: Delagoa Bay, Mozambique
Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1914
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Mauritius, Durban [Natal], East London, Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay], Cape Town, Las Palmas
Ship Name: Braemar Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Braemar Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 108381

Tracey x

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 20 Oct 2008 18:11

Must admit I'd forgotten about Constance! Didn't he come out of the Army in 1912?( from memory - I haven't checked). I wonder if Edwin had died, but then why is she calling herself "wife?" Wonder if she remarried in this country as she had 3 young children.


Dionne Report 20 Oct 2008 18:07

Wow Ann

I think this could be them.

As you see Dorothea is there with her sister Edith.
If you remember Dorotheas sister was called Edith Constance Livermore . She chose to be known by her second name of Constance.

We also have the brother Edwin who Dorothea never ever spoke about. I am going to have to go through all my research to checkout the dates etc.

I see they came over to this country in 1914,wanst this when Edwin senior came out of the Army? But we are still none the wiser as to where he went to.

There is still so much mystery surrounding this family but I am hoping that I can now tell my father the name of his grandmother.

As you know I work long hours in the week so I really cant spend a great deal of time on this until the weekend. I am so excited and cant wat to get going again.

Many many thankyou's

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 20 Oct 2008 17:59

Ancestry now have the incoming passenger lists. Told you Dionne, that they should help! I hope this is the family

Traveeling from Natal to London, on the Braemar Castle, arriving 13/7/1914

Mrs Edith Livermore wife, 36
Miss Edith Livermore, 6
Miss Dorothea Livermore, 4
Master Edwin Livermore 2

No husband mentioned though. Don't think we had Dorotheas mothers name before, so I'm sure it helps!
Don't remember Edith, the daughter, either!


Nicki Report 20 Oct 2008 17:48

Wow how exciting x


Dionne Report 20 Oct 2008 17:47

Hi everyone.

Ann has asked me to put this thread to the top of the board as she couldnt find it. She thinks she may have found my Livermores on a passenger list.
Fingers crossed.


Dionne Report 22 Jun 2008 11:09

Hi all

I have had a few replies from one of the contacts found and it seems after compareing our information we are searching for a different family of Livermores even though some of the names match which is a great shame.

I am still waiting for a reply to an email I sent to another member. But it is still looking that I am really no closer to solving the mystery on Edwin William Livermore. Shame.


Vivian Report 22 Jun 2008 02:44


If you click on their name (ie. Posted by: ....) you can contact them direct



Dionne Report 20 Jun 2008 19:36

Many Many thanks Vivian.

I have just posted messages to both of the contacts at the site.

All I can do now is sit here with everything crossed.
I will keep you posted.


Vivian Report 20 Jun 2008 08:59

Hi Dionne

Just found your thread 2 days ago and finally got to the end of it !

I found the following thread on the Livermore board at Genforum.

Looks like this person is researching your family also.

You may need to register (free) to read it.

Hope it helps


Just found this one as well - looks interesting


Dionne Report 16 Jun 2008 20:16

Hi Friends

I really wish I could say that I have some news for you all. But sadly again I have none. I have written to magazines in South Africa and over here but no one sems to be able to help. Itg really does look like Edwin just vanished. I do pop in here from time to time with the hope that someone might just come across something for me.
I would love to have the final piece of the jigsaw but it just seems that at the moment it it not to be.
Thankyou all for asking and I promice if I get any news you will all be the first to know.


WayneTracey Report 10 Jun 2008 17:01

Gotta bump this up..

Dionne, do we have any news yet hunny??

Tracey x


Debs Report 7 May 2008 21:10

nudge/ amazing. of for a cuppa. you are all fantastic.

Read through the whole thread, i was amazed by the dedication of people on here. i thought genes was going down hill a year ago when a lot of good people moved to the other web site, but you have outshined more than i can imagine. you all have done wonders and i hope the last pieces one day come together. My family is a muddled up lot and i not very good at finding further than i have got. Father wont help me and sadly my mother died 37 years ago. i have found distant cousin on here but not heard from her for long time. Keep the good work up. i even missed coronation st tonight, never have i been so hooked on a wonderfull, very confusing thread before in all the years on here, i started finding partners original family after social services could find no trace, took me two years but i did it, just got one more sister to find who was adopted but sadly dont think we are ever going to find her, this thread brought a lump in my throat, keep us informed as to what is going on and give your father a hug from me, for wanting to put some closure on his child hood. well done to you all. xx


WayneTracey Report 7 May 2008 16:24

I bumped this up for 2 reasons.

1. i was going through my bookmarks and this is always there....

2. under the current climate on here i wanted to show all new newbie's what can happen when you help us as much as we can help you...

This thread proves how many nice people are here and how when this place pulls together we do a hell of a job !!

Dionne....ohhhhh Dionne..... give us an update please !!!!

Tracey xxx


Debbie Report 7 May 2008 16:17

Just finished reading this - its absolutely fantastic how everybody has come together to help with this.

I nearly forgot to get the kids from school i was that engrossed