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Robert

Robert Report 4 May 2009 20:04

Hi everyone,would some kind soul find out the whereabouts of my late fathers family?He was called Robert james white and was born in battersea London in 1910[10-3-]he also had a older sister called Rose who married an Albert james Simmonds in 1922, and maybe another brother? [I have not got the hang of these infernal computers]a very BIG THANKYOU in advance for your time and trouble.thanks.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 May 2009 20:18

A possible on the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD WHITE ROBERT M 1910 4 MONTHS Croydon Surrey
HOUSEHOLD WHITE ROSE F 1909 2 Croydon Surrey.

You will need to go to this site

http://www.1911census.co.uk

Register and then buy some credits to look at the transcription and or image.
viv

EDIT,,I dont think this is him.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 May 2009 20:22

Do you know your fathers parents names??
And are you trying to go back in time or find living relatives?
viv

Ann

Ann Report 4 May 2009 20:28


For reference the marriage of rose

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1922 (>99%)
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SIMMONDS Albert J White Wandsworth 1d 882
White Rose J Simmonds Wandsworth 1d 882

Sheila

Sheila Report 4 May 2009 20:37

Hi

Could this be his birth ?

Births Mar 1910
WHITE Robert James Wandsworth 1d 695

how much older was Rose there are quite a few matches for her name what about this one

Births Dec 1909 (>99%)
White Rose Violet V Wandsworth 1d 553

just realized these are 2 close together.

Could be Albert given his age these may no longer be with us,

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
Simmonds Albert James Wandsworth 1d 570


poss birth from Father Simmonds MMN White

Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Simmonds William A White Marylebone 1a 843 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Simmonds (Male) White King's N. 6d 55 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Simmonds St Winifred O White Marylebone 1a 620 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1932 (90%)
Simmonds Eric J White Chichester 2b 529 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1933 (>99%)
SIMMONDS George H White Yeovil 5c 454

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 May 2009 21:13

This one is I think

1911
HOUSEHOLD WHITE ROBERT JAMES M 1910 1 Wandsworth London
with father of the same name
HOUSEHOLD WHITE ROBERT JAMES M 1881 30 Wandsworth London

No rose, but maybe she was elsewhere?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 May 2009 21:30

PM from robert
Father same name I believe.

Well I am feeling generous,and nosey.

Married nine years and only the one child in the house.,so where are the rest?

You will need to buy those credits to see the image
as that is 30 credits
and it will tell you how many children they had and how many are still alive.
WHITE, ROBERT JAMES HEAD MARRIED M 30 HOUSE PAINTER LONDON SHADWELL
WHITE, JANE WIFE MARRIED 9 F 39 LONDON BATTERSEA SURREY
WHITE, ROBERT JAMES SON M 1 LONDON BATTERSEA SURREY
Address 26 LATCHMERE GROVE BATTERSEA S W County London
District Wandsworth Subdistrict North West Battersea
Enumeration District 14 Parish

But you really need to buy the birth cert of your father that has been posted on here by sheila.

Or even his marriage cert to your mother to make sure his fathers name is robert james and what his occupation was.

Also if you use the reply button at the top of this post you can speak to us here,its much easier than private messages
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 May 2009 21:34

Robert james white marriage to jane maybe?

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)

SLAUGHTER Jane Kensington 1a 517
White Robert James Kensington 1a 517

Robert

Robert Report 5 May 2009 17:22

First of all a very big THANKYOU for info,i do apologize for sending a private message,i am not to well rehearsed with these computers and comp,etiquette.i know i have a cheek but can you tell me if i can apply for birth cert: online?,or do i have to travel to kew? with the info you have provided(i:e: address etc.Sorry for being a pain........Robert

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 May 2009 17:57

Its not a cheek Robert,we all have to learn somehow.

You will need these ref numbers etc

Births Mar 1910
WHITE Robert James Wandsworth 1d 695

Fingers crossed it is the correct one

Then you register here

http://www.gro.gov.uk

Certs cost £7 each and take about 5 to 10 days to arrive.
When you order the cert there is a little "yes" box that you must tick on the order form.
Good luck
And if you need more help I will try and oblige.
Only one other thing
If you need more help on this line of your family please come back to this post and dont start a new one as all the info we need to carry on is here.
Oh and while Im passing on things
this site for your future births, marriages and deaths lookups.
ITS FREE!
http://www.freebmd.org.uk

VIV

Robert

Robert Report 5 May 2009 18:23

Viv,thankyou for everything you have found out for me.I have applied for cert: Cannot wait for it to arrive so i can begin this long and fact finding insight into my familys past.,(I can see some big skeletons coming out of the woodwork??)Also thanks to everyone else for your time and trouble i am extremely grateful.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 5 May 2009 19:30

You are very welcome Robert,its been a pleasure to try and help such a polite person.
viv

Robert

Robert Report 1 Jun 2009 19:39

Hello vivienne,just thought i would let you know that i recieved my g.fathers marriage cert,.You was correct with the information that you so kindly gave me.He married Jane slaughter on the 29/9/01 in kensington.The cert, also gives the name of my g.g.father Charles white(deceased) I have had no luck trying to trace him or his wife.,but i have been able to trace janes parents and siblings.Cannot find g.dads birth entry in 1880 at shadwell(tried1881 also)Do believe that shadwell comes under Woolwich Kent?.Sorry that it has been so long contacting you,but this computer as had six viruses(whatever they maybe)Just hope that it was not swine flu.thanks for pointing me in the right direction Robert.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Jun 2009 21:15

Robert,
Thank you for letting us know a happy outcome,I check my threads regularly so always see you when you "pop"to the top of them.
What was charles occupation on the marriage cert?
Then we can have a go at trying to locate your grandfather with him on a census.
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Jun 2009 21:44

This is the only birth that I could find that would remotley suit your grandfather for a birth near or in shadwell

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
WHITE Robert James W.Ham 4a 74

If you send for from the GRO use fathers name of Charles for it and then if its wrong you will get half your money back and a message telling you it has not been sent as the father wasnt charles on it.

viv

Robert

Robert Report 2 Jun 2009 15:34

Nice to hear from you,once again thankyou for your help:On the marriage cert:I have robert james white living at 158 lots road chelsea in sept,1901.Roberts fathers occupation was a dock labourer,his name was Charles the cert: shows him as deceased.Vivienne one day i will get the hang of this computer???and will be able to look things up.THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Jun 2009 16:04

Easy peasy ,lemon squeezy!!
Thought I had found him yesterday but need charles occupation to verify it.

1891 census
Name: Robert White
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles<<<,dock labourer
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges, London, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St George North
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles White 30<<<born ,,mile end
Eliza White 30<<born,,walburg st
Charles White 12
Robert White 11
George White 10
John White 2
Thomas White 1

Address,,80 st chapmen street

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Jun 2009 16:13

1901 census

Name: Robert White
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St George in The East

Civil parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: St George in the East
Sub-registration district: St George North
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza White 40
Robert White 20<<,,labourer
John White 13
William White 9

address,,,,27 Haton??road

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Jun 2009 16:31

A poss marriage for charles and eliza based on the area.

Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)

Sharp Eliza St Geo East 1c 663
WHITE Charles St. Geo. East 1c 663

But really we need to find one of their childrens birth for sure to get elizas maiden name.
Will search some more later,gotta sort food out now.

viv

Robert

Robert Report 2 Jun 2009 16:49

Viv,i think i might have cracked it.,1891 census.St.Georges in the east,St georges north.Charles head,dock labourer,Eliza wife,trouser hand???,Charles jnr 12,Robert 11,George10,John 2,Thomas 1.Cannot believe i actually managed this on my own?Do you think this could right please? (sorry address is 80,lower chapman street.) Now i have started to get the bug.MASSIVE THANKYOU.......