Genealogy Chat

Did Henry leave Maria?

Rose

If you want to confirm the surname you might need to order another of the children's birth certificates.

Rose

Yes , I'm afraid so , when my gran was 5 yrs old

I do not know the birth dates only the year ,

I have Maria's maiden name on my Gran's birth certificate in which I got from the Isle of Man last November 2007

If you search for Henry Ramsbottoms marrying a Maria there are only 4.

Marriages Jun 1840
RAMSBOTTOM Henry Blackburn 21 15

Marriages Dec 1842
RAMSBOTTOM Henry Bury 21 186

Marriages Sep 1864
Ramsbottom Henry Norwich 4b 251

Marriages Jun 1888
Ramsbottom Henry Blackburn 8e 565

Seems it has to be the last one with Maria Leek.

Rose

You can see it here:

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi?county=lancashire

Rose

I wonder if they did marry in Shropshire or the Isle of Man .
I have been thinking of writing to Shropshire registry office as I can't use the phone cos of my deafness , would is be worthwhile ?, they do charge £18.00 for a research and £10.00 for a certificate , It's cheaper than travelling down from the Scottish Borders .
Gala

Rose,
Both years are the same family only , the 1901 is when Henry left Maria and the children on the Isle of Man ,I'm only going off in what my gran told me. (things in them days are not always true )

Gala

Gala - a bit of a long shot, but there is a marriage of a Henry Ramsbottom to a Maria Leek, Blackburn 1888. On freebmd. Could this be them?
Jan

Hi Jan.
I know it is a long shot ,
It is not them as Maria was born in Shropshire .
I am having a big problem finding her as my mother is keeping the past to herself , seems like I am never going to know if I cannae find her .

Gala

This Mary Leek was born Shropshire but living Lancashire 1881

Edward LEEK Head M Male 38 Donnington, Shropshire, England Carter
Emma LEEK Wife M Female 37 Pattingham, Stafford, England
Mary A. LEEK Dau U Female 16 Albrighton, Shropshire, England Dressmaker
Oliver LEEK Son Male 11 Albrighton, Shropshire, England Scholar
John BAILEY Lodger U Male 23 Poulton, Lancashire, England Brewer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 64 Wrayburn St
Census Place West Derby, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341888
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3709 / 7
Page Number 7

Hi Selena.
It is not the one I'm afraid . Maria Fick was born in St.George's Telford/Wrekin..
I have a lots of the
PUBLIC RECOEDS OFFICE REFERANCE ( RG 11,)
files...what does it mean ?.
I think she maybe from a German parents

Gala

Gala,

Have you got her death certificate?

BW

Jane

Silly question,but havr you tried name-sound variants e.g.Wick as they very greatly depending on transcriber? Also theres birth for Ann Marie Fick in records.
D*

Do you know if this could be her death?

RAMSBOTTOM Maria 72 Blackburn.8e 478 2 1918

Therefore should be born about 1846

BW

Jane

Do you know who Henry's father was and what he did?

You could get the marriage of Henry to Maria Leek and see if Henry's fathers details match up.

Selena

Jane 123: ,
No, I don't have anything of her birth - marriage or death . :-((

Gala

Denise , Not a silly question at all :-)
On my gran's birth cert says Maria Fick ..It has been know that in them days , people did try to cover themselves by useing another name to save embarrassment .

Gala

Jane 123.
Maria was born in 1865 and she was still alive when my mother was born in 1920 , my mum could remembered her as she used to tell her off for being naughty in WELSH . so I think she must have died around 1926 . I wish I knew more about her .